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How to tell dark bay from dark brown

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    03-07-2011, 07:03 PM
So a brown can have a black mane and tail and black legs as long as they are lighter in the muzzle and stifle?

Is it possible for a bay horse to be light in those areas?
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    03-07-2011, 09:46 PM
If it is light in those areas and is "bay" that means it is actually a brown.
    03-08-2011, 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by NdAppy    
If it is light in those areas and is "bay" that means it is actually a brown.
Alright, I was just wondering. Learn something new everyday!

So is it that a certain type of gene is bay when another is brown?
    03-08-2011, 09:31 PM
Yep. And bay is dominant over brown. A horse can be both Bay (A) and Brown (At) as far as I know. The one that will show will be the bay. Confusing right?
    03-08-2011, 10:58 PM
Wait, now I'm confused, haha. Would my horse be brown instead of bay? Her papers say brown, but in Germany they say brown for everything from cherry bay to seal.
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    03-09-2011, 01:28 AM
Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Yep. And bay is dominant over brown. A horse can be both Bay (A) and Brown (At) as far as I know. The one that will show will be the bay. Confusing right?
Actually, that makes quite a bit of sense (we just finished learning about how genetics work in science).

^ I think your horse would be bay because of the dark points. Especially if you look at the specific spots (Muzzle, elbows, etc)
    03-15-2011, 01:01 PM
Hmm...this means my "bay" is brown as well...

She is registered Bay on her papers though.
    04-26-2011, 01:10 AM
This horse is obviously "seal brown." A good horse coat chart can be found here.
    04-26-2011, 01:49 AM
Originally Posted by NdAppy    
It probably started as a regional thing, but genetically they are not bay per say. Brown still shows up under agouti, but is a different gene then bay. I suck at trying to explain it! Lol
would you mind asking a mod, or I can ask, if you start a thread. But would you explain colors and genetics to us who don't know a single thing about it?
    04-26-2011, 01:56 AM
Sure Alex. I would be willing to put something together. Think we could get members to "donate" pictures to the thread for examples? (to only be used on the thread of course!)

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