Just for Fun - Blue Roan or Brown Roan?

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Just for Fun - Blue Roan or Brown Roan?

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    09-02-2013, 01:30 PM
Just for Fun - Blue Roan or Brown Roan?

Hello my HF Friends,

It has been a while since I've been on here and I have a question. Below are some pictures of a colt who belongs to a friend of mine. We have a friendly debate going on as to whether he is a Blue Roan or Brown Roan. She says he is going to go blue once he's finished shedding out. I say he's a Brown, similar in colour to my mare Lilly. I told her, for fun, we'll see what the HF community thinks on this one. "Titan's" sire is a blue roan and his dam is a strawberry roan, but I don't know anything further about their colour genetics, other than the dam's dam was a brown.

I understand that he is just over 3 months old, so his colour is bound to change. I also get that the pictures also aren't the greatest because he was in no mood to stand for pictures when we saw him last night. I've included pictures of when he was 1 day old to yesterday evening. He's shedded out around his eyes and nose and he looks to have the softer points of a brown. My friend at some point wants to have him genetically tested for his colour, but she says it's more fun to argue with me right now. Because he likely will change colour, this is really just for fun to see what other opinions are out there.

Titan at 1 day old.

A few weeks old.
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End of July


Yesterday - 3 months

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    09-02-2013, 01:32 PM
Not blue roan at all.

Bay or brown roan.
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    09-02-2013, 01:35 PM
Blue roan isn't even a possibility. He's a bay/brown roan.
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    09-02-2013, 01:37 PM
Agreed. Blue roans are born black with the roan gene. You have a brown or bay roan depending on whether he has the At gene or not, which is difficult to see at this point.
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    09-02-2013, 01:39 PM
Just out of curiousity, why isn't blue a possibility? Could a chestnut and black not have another black?

EDIT: I know he isn't a black, I'm just curious in general.
    09-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Yes it is possible from a black and red cross, but it's not possible with this colt as he clearly has some either brown or bay agouti.
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    09-02-2013, 01:54 PM
Thanks guys, I'll let my friend know the consensus. I told her that if he were black, he would have clearly been black from the start. My mare Lilly started out as a Bay colour similar to him and then darkened significantly to the colour she is now (horse in my avatar). It is just a friendly debate though - whatever colour he turns out to be, I look forward to seeing how this guy turns out.
    09-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Yep if he was black he would have more than likely been born a mousy grey color.
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    09-02-2013, 05:29 PM
I have a sorrel mare that foaled a black filly this past March. So yes its possible. LoL. Wrecker was a greyish/bluish/silver color. Darker on top, light from belly down.
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    09-02-2013, 05:44 PM
Definitely a bay/brown roan though I'm leaning more toward brown.

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