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post #21 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 09:36 AM
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You know, I am the first person that would say something like this. But then I would back it up with reasons. It's just plain rude to say stuff like that without justifying it. Please, enlighten us, oh knowledgeable one. Why would you geld and not keep this one?

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post #22 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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I think his confo isnt terrible, personally.
I also think many would keep him as a stud purely because of his color. He's a lovely shade of roan (one of my favs) as well as a Pintaloosa and around here, those arent common. This is in fact the first i've ever actually seen lol
Being registered also makes it a bonus & if he's got decent lines then all the better.
He's the best one out of their other studs lol though all their pics are taken at bad angles in winter & they're all mucky-looking so you can't really judge ;)

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I think his confo isnt terrible, personally.
I also think many would keep him as a stud purely because of his color. He's a lovely shade of roan (one of my favs) as well as a Pintaloosa and around here, those arent common. This is in fact the first i've ever actually seen lol
Being registered also makes it a bonus & if he's got decent lines then all the better.
He's the best one out of their other studs lol though all their pics are taken at bad angles in winter & they're all mucky-looking so you can't really judge ;)
Where is he registered with? APHA wouldn't touch him nor would ApHC.
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he looks slightly like my horse molly

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post #25 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 04:52 PM
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Where is he registered with? APHA wouldn't touch him nor would ApHC.

I have been following this thread and agree. None of the well known respected color registries accept pintaloosas as far as I am aware of.

I personally would pass this one by.

From what the OP has posted it seems to be a backyard breeder and while the conformation is OK he does not look to be of breeding quality. A stallion should exhibit more than just OK conformation but excel or at least be minimally above average for the breed standard. The markings are certainly unusual but I am not a fan of breeders that breed for color only, there HAS to be more than color to make a horse stand out to even be considered a viable breeding prospect.

And in my opinion those qualities are just not there.
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post #26 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 04:56 PM
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Very well put Spyder. I was thinking the same thing, I just couldn't get it out that nicely.
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post #27 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 05:20 PM
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As if the photos aren't justification enough? He's not stallion material plain and simple. Second he's also likely to not be registered with any breed registry so that makes him another grade stallion producing more grade horses in a market that is pretty much dead even for registered horses. Keeping stallions and continually producing horses in an economy where so many others can't even be sold is totally irresponsible for the owner.

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You know, I am the first person that would say something like this. But then I would back it up with reasons. It's just plain rude to say stuff like that without justifying it. Please, enlighten us, oh knowledgeable one. Why would you geld and not keep this one?
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post #28 of 41 Old 02-20-2011, 05:25 PM
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Actually that isn't correct any more.

ApHC voted to remove their excessive white rule from ApHC to ApHC registered stock so they will and have recently allowed Pintaloosas full regular registration papers due to parentage verification of the resulting foal. So There may be a time in the near future where pintaloosa's become somewhat common place.

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I have been following this thread and agree. None of the well known respected color registries accept pintaloosas as far as I am aware of.
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Not totally true there either Hobo. ApHC has stated that is the foals born have pinto patterns, regardless of what the parents look like, they will not be granted ApHC papers. Also if the horse (AQHA) is marked undesirable white and it is in a pinto type pattern, they are not eligible for breeding to ApHC horses. AQHA horses such as Reminic In Spots, as far as I know, are allowed an allowed out-cross since he (they) show a distinct appaloosa pattern.
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That ruling is for ApHC to approved crossbreed horses. If I breed and ApHC stallion to a TB or Arab or AQHA mare, and said foal comes out looking like a Pintaloosa, he's not eligible to be registered.

However ApHC to ApHC horses no longer have any excessive white rule and there has already been not one but at least TWO or more ApHC to ApHC parentage verified registered pintaloosas allowed. One of them even competed at the National show in the past two years. There currently is NO excessive white rule for ApHC to ApHC registered foals. It's been in the rule book like that for several years.

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Not totally true there either Hobo. ApHC has stated that is the foals born have pinto patterns, regardless of what the parents look like, they will not be granted ApHC papers. Also if the horse (AQHA) is marked undesirable white and it is in a pinto type pattern, they are not eligible for breeding to ApHC horses. AQHA horses such as Reminic In Spots, as far as I know, are allowed an allowed out-cross since he (they) show a distinct appaloosa pattern.
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