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    09-11-2012, 02:02 PM
  #1
Foal
Know anything about paint markings?

Hi everyone, this is Chief, I am curious to know what his markings/pattern would be called. Thanks!

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    09-11-2012, 02:16 PM
  #2
Weanling
Tobiano, sabino, and frame. I'm guessing. Any pics of the other side?
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    09-11-2012, 02:25 PM
  #3
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I'd call him a Tobiano. But he's obviously got some kind of sabino in there. Possibly frame and might even have some form of splash and DW.

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    09-11-2012, 03:09 PM
  #4
Foal
His other side is identical to this side. He's got a few black spots on his leg right above his hoof if that makes any difference.
     
    09-11-2012, 09:38 PM
  #5
Weanling
He is a Tobiano. If you want to find out exactly what he is genotypically, then have his color tested.

Throwing out that he has frame and sabino on every horse seems to be a thing here. Curious how people are deciding this horse carries the frame gene off of one picture of a Tobi horse.
     
    09-11-2012, 10:25 PM
  #6
Weanling
I said it because his markings have very jagged edges and a top heavy facial marking. I debated on splash too from the snip but not entirely sure. I haven't noticed it "being a thing" but I have noticed a lot of horses posted lately potentially have sabino and/or frame...
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    09-12-2012, 12:03 AM
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*Throwing out that he has frame and sabino on every horse seems to be a thing here. Curious how people are deciding this horse carries the frame gene off of one picture of a Tobi horse.

We answered as we did, because he is obviously first and foremost, a Tobiano. Probably carrries one or other form of Sabino, because of the extremely jagged edges to his colour and because Sabino does often like to cover the eyes with colour. Possible Splash, because it likes to take it away from the face and he has a quite large snip. Could indicate a fight between Sabino and Splash there. If he were a true Tobiano, the face would have no white at all.

Lastly, he's a Paint. A huge number of Paints carry Frame. It can hide very well. If he is whole and likely to be bred, then of course, he should be tested for it.

Lizzie
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    09-12-2012, 04:57 AM
  #8
Trained
I would say tobiano frame splash and sabino. Tobiano because he has a dark head and a shield on his flank. Splash because his face white flares at the bottom, a classic splash trait. Sabino because his face white is fairly symmetrical. Frame because his face white spreads above the eyes.
     
    09-12-2012, 05:19 AM
  #9
Trained
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He is a Tobiano. If you want to find out exactly what he is genotypically, then have his color tested.

Throwing out that he has frame and sabino on every horse seems to be a thing here. Curious how people are deciding this horse carries the frame gene off of one picture of a Tobi horse.
I am curious to know how one person can say this horse is "tobiano" (ignoring the fact he has face white so therefore MUST have something more than that going on), then claim to have more knowledge about what genes are present than the rest of us.

Some of us are actually really good at spotting frame from a single picture. Heck, sometimes we don't even need the picture to be of the whole horse. Such as this mare. A head shot of her was enough for me to say she had frame, from the way the white is on her face. She has since been tested, and indeed is frame.

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    09-12-2012, 08:43 AM
  #10
Weanling
I would be happy if someone caught a genetic thing that could be potentially lethal in a foal I would want someone to tell me we're not all perfect in seeing certain traits and missing things is common which is why I am a testing nut...I want to know esp on breeding animals I take taht responsibility extremely serious.
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