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post #21 of 60 Old 02-15-2012, 03:26 PM
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I'd never heard of it either. They used grulla instead of grullo to as someone pointed out. I don't buy just for color, so it was a plus and definitely a gimmick I think. I looked at the little guy and I do love him, he's very respectable and has good manners for a youngin' but I do NOT like the ranch where he's at. They ponied him with a child on his back and are working him way to hard for his age. He is registered and definitely has the grullo color maybe not "black".

ANYWAYS, do not want to hijack the thread. I am a sucker for the grullo/grulla color. Just love the looks, especially if they're on a good horse. (:

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I'd never heard of it either. They used grulla instead of grullo to as someone pointed out. I don't buy just for color, so it was a plus and definitely a gimmick I think. I looked at the little guy and I do love him, he's very respectable and has good manners for a youngin' but I do NOT like the ranch where he's at. They ponied him with a child on his back and are working him way to hard for his age. He is registered and definitely has the grullo color maybe not "black".

ANYWAYS, do not want to hijack the thread. I am a sucker for the grullo/grulla color. Just love the looks, especially if they're on a good horse. (:

totally! I'd have a whole herd of them if I could afford it! LOL
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post #23 of 60 Old 02-15-2012, 05:27 PM
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Racehl you need to know what your mare's agouti status is before you even begin to look at studs. If she is homozygous for agouti you will never get a grulla.
Thanks good to know, would I need to know the red factor also? I'm looking at the uc davis site to see all I would need to get her tested. Figure for the price it would be nice to know even if I don't breed her. If there is no way to get a grullo then I'd really like a bay or chestnut tobiano. I've always wanted a pinto, actually when I was horse shopping I was looking for a tobiano, but ended up with Bella, a bay with just a star, would of thought I'd at least get something with socks lol

ETA:I saw on one of the test you need to send 20-30 mane hairs with root attached but it didn't say that for the agouti or red testing. Do you know if that is what is needed for that test as well?

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It would be for the same test. And yes red testing would narrow down if you need a homozygous black or not.
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He is registered and definitely has the grullo color maybe not "black".
As I said on the other thread, I don't think this foal is actually a grullo and not just a black. Most foals are born with primitive countershading. This makes their underparts, such as legs and bellies, lighter than the top of their body. This can also cause markings that resemble dun factor - dorsal, shoulder and leg barring etc. What colour is the foal's sire?

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Ok, I am the worst at deciding what is considered grulla/grullo. I know these are dark but what would you consider this little one? I posted this a long time ago just to show some pics of her. My Little Bre Bre (Brea) and I do mean LITTLE!!!

Sire was black and white pinto, dam was dark sorrel pinto. Grandparents were cremello pinto, dam on this side has no color listed, and the other side was sorrel, and cremello again. Her mane and forelock are the same color as her body and her tail is black. Darker lower legs and a bluish gray body. Wish she was clipped so I could just take some good pics of her.

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To be grulla, the horse needs a copy of the dun gene. With those parents, no, your horse cannot be grulla. Also, if one of the grandparents was a cremello, one of the parents needs to be a dilute. I would guess that the sire is actually a smokey black rather than a black.
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There were two grandparents that were supposedly cremello, one being a pinto, the other solid. Each one of the cremello was on the sire and dam side of this mare. I know that still isn't dun genes, but heck I am out of ideas on calling her anything but grey! That might just be what she is!

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My grulla mare Lexi at 2 years old. Dam is a red dun solid, sire is a black and white Tovero.
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post #30 of 60 Old 02-15-2012, 09:39 PM
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My Dancer is a grulla (see avatar). She got with son in law's chestnut paint, and we wound up with a bay filly - no dun factor. Guess they were neither one homozygous for anything much?

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