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post #11 of 35 Old 05-17-2011, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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I personally don't see liver at all. The colour on his neck just doesn't say red to me.
^^ Chiilaa, I completely agree with you! ^^ I don't see any red tinge in his mane or coat... but I do know that if you type in "liver chestnut" google images, you'll get every shade of brown, red or no red, so who knows! But I would think a "Silver _______" fits better than Liver Chestnut
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post #12 of 35 Old 05-17-2011, 12:25 PM
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this horse is a chestnut but as you can see he looks very black with no red tint. You can see the white bands at his cornet giving him away as chestnut though. So your horse could still be chestnut.
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I would also wonder if he is a black chestnut with flaxen.
This is a black chestnut (they're called black chestnuts when they're this dark, by the way) I personally rode a lot:





And when he was body clipped he almost looked grullo.



The color on your boy's neck, though, makes me wonder about palomino tbh.

http://morgancolors.com/heathermoorgoldbanner.jpg

Like that guy, but retaining a lighter mane and tail. You can see what could easily be sooty creeping into your guy's mane in the pics.

This, as a yearling, http://morgancolors.com/metigoshemariah.jpg
Became this as an adult: http://morgancolors.com/metigishemariahsideadult.jpg http://morgancolors.com/metigishemariahheadside.jpg
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That close up of his neck looks almost buckskin, we have a buckskin mare in the barn and she is shedding out to that chocolatey colour.

This colour and pattern thing is fascinating, I love it. When I was growing up horses were shades of bay, chestnut, grey, dun, piebald or skewbald etc none of this "is he a buckskin or a dun? Is he a Tobiano or a tovero?" In fact, I'd never heard of those, and as for palominos! Scarey. They were gold (as in my signature) or pale, sooty or chocolate wasn't acknowledged at all. Champagne was something that we drank not used to describe a dilute and sorrel was a type of plant.:)

This is what I call a liver chestnut (silver something or other, bay I presume, who cares, he isn't breeding stock) He was out of a palomino pony mare by a red and white Paint.


and today:

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Lolamae, that bottom photo is absolutely adorable. Thanks for sharing :)
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I'm sticking with silver black. The colour on the neck, with the dapples, and the silver mane, it just screams silver to me.

What colour are his eyelashes?

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post #17 of 35 Old 05-18-2011, 07:09 AM Thread Starter
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His eyelashes are black/brown except for a small section on his right eye where his blaze touches his eye. It's really adorable. I just love this little guy :)
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I would also wonder if he is a black chestnut with flaxen.
This is a black chestnut (they're called black chestnuts when they're this dark, by the way) I personally rode a lot:

And when he was body clipped he almost looked grullo.

The color on your boy's neck, though, makes me wonder about palomino tbh.
http://morgancolors.com/heathermoorgoldbanner.jpg

Like that guy, but retaining a lighter mane and tail. You can see what could easily be sooty creeping into your guy's mane in the pics.

This, as a yearling, http://morgancolors.com/metigoshemariah.jpg
Became this as an adult: http://morgancolors.com/metigishemariahsideadult.jpg http://morgancolors.com/metigishemariahheadside.jpg

aneternalflame: That horse of yours in your OP is gorgeous, I LOVE that color he looked body shaved. I just can't believe all these shades!! Hard to believe your guy is a chestnut!

I hope my guy's mane & forelock don't darken, I love this color they are now. I was watching it in the sun yesterday, and it just seems to literally sparkle. His tail is the seemingly typical tobiano: white with a chunk of black.

I've been keeping my mom updated on all the comments (she's been right along side my trying to figure out his color since we got him) and we think its humorous we were confused between Silver Bay & Liver Chestnut and now we have Silver Black, Black Chestnut, and even a Palomino idea thrown in :) I love it!! The color ranges are crazy, and I just love all the genetics to go with it.
I probably will end up doing DNA test, I'm thinking about breeding him (before gelding for my son to ride) to my palomino mare (in my avatar) and knowing what specific color he is will help me make my decision - especially if he's homozygous for tobiano (both his parents are tobianos... figure there's a good chance :))
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I just couldn't resist sharing this video of him with my son's bucket. They sure get a kick out of each other!
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post #20 of 35 Old 05-18-2011, 08:37 AM
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His clor is interesting. He does look like a silver dapple to me as well.

On the breeding thing... Unless he has done something fantastic and warrants having his genes passed on,I wouldn't. Color in and of itself is a truly bad reason to breed. Breeding for color and temperament without breeding for confo is also a bad reason. Geld him and love him.
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