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        01-03-2013, 10:42 PM
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    Ok, let me see if I've got this straight. Brown and Agouti are variations of the same modifier, but Brown doesn't restrict black to the points, and 'fades' the soft points? So, would a "brown" horse be able to throw a true buckskin with a cremello? It doesn't sound like it, more like you'd get the sooty variations? Is that correct?
    Agouti is the name of the allele - the "a" locus if you will. Brown, bay and wild bay are all mutations of agouti - mutations at the "a" locus.

    Brown can often restrict black in ways that make it mimic bay. This shows a few of the variations of brown that are "normal" for brown. Bear in mind, this picture is fairly old, and since then lots of other horses have been tested positive too. It's just really hard to google "tested brown horse" and get any sort of meaningful results lol.

         
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        01-03-2013, 10:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    Agouti is the name of the allele - the "a" locus if you will. Brown, bay and wild bay are all mutations of agouti - mutations at the "a" locus.

    Brown can often restrict black in ways that make it mimic bay. This shows a few of the variations of brown that are "normal" for brown.
    OK, so I guess what I'm getting at, bottom line: Do I want a brown mare to breed to a cremello stallion to produce a buckskin foal or should I stick with a strictly bay EE/AA mare to get what I want? Conformation/Pedigree/Temper all being equal.
         
        01-03-2013, 10:53 PM
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    OK, so I guess what I'm getting at, bottom line: Do I want a brown mare to breed to a cremello stallion to produce a buckskin foal or should I stick with a strictly bay EE/AA mare to get what I want? Conformation/Pedigree/Temper all being equal.
    That depends on the results of the cremello stallion's agouti status. If he is AA, then a brown mare's AtAt won't matter, as A is dominant over At (well that is the theory anyway). If he is Aa or aa, then you could get a brown based buckskin instead. Definitely a delicious option (not that I am biased, it's not like it's my favourite colour or anything *whistles*).

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        01-03-2013, 11:03 PM
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    I had a thread asking about Drifter that led to me getting a DNA test from Pet DNA because everyone was so on the fence about him. According to the $60 test offered on their site .. Drifter is AAt which from my understanding means he is a bay carrying the brown gene. It was all really confusing to me, but fascinating none the less.

    Here is a picture of him! As you can see his muzzle went light this winter for the first time (which is the reason I questions if he was truly bay). There is no other lighter portion on his body.
         
        01-04-2013, 01:27 AM
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    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    That depends on the results of the cremello stallion's agouti status. If he is AA, then a brown mare's AtAt won't matter, as A is dominant over At (well that is the theory anyway). If he is Aa or aa, then you could get a brown based buckskin instead. Definitely a delicious option (not that I am biased, it's not like it's my favourite colour or anything *whistles*).

    That's a nice lookin' pony, Chili! I wouldn't object to one that looked like that. I'm sending off the stallion's tail hair in about a week or so, going to get a full color profile on him to find out what he's carrying for sure. Then I'll know.

    Right now, I'm just looking at mares to breed to him, looking for the right temper, right confo, right pedigree to compliment him, AND get a pretty colored horse into the bargain. I was asking about the brown because Arabians don't recognize brown as a color and the Animal Genetics site doesn't mention the At stuff at all. I'll look to a different lab for that test on any brown/bay mares, I guess.
         
        01-04-2013, 01:31 AM
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    Originally Posted by DriftingShadow    
    I had a thread asking about Drifter that led to me getting a DNA test from Pet DNA because everyone was so on the fence about him. According to the $60 test offered on their site .. Drifter is AAt which from my understanding means he is a bay carrying the brown gene. It was all really confusing to me, but fascinating none the less.

    Here is a picture of him! As you can see his muzzle went light this winter for the first time (which is the reason I questions if he was truly bay). There is no other lighter portion on his body.
    Can you give me a link to the lab you used?
         
        01-04-2013, 01:47 AM
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    Can you give me a link to the lab you used?
    here you are!

    Pet DNA Testing Lab

    They were recommended to me by Verona in the thread I had started. I opted for the $60 comprehensive DNA test. Hope it helps!
         
        01-04-2013, 02:03 AM
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    Originally Posted by DriftingShadow    
    here you are!

    Pet DNA Testing Lab

    They were recommended to me by Verona in the thread I had started. I opted for the $60 comprehensive DNA test. Hope it helps!
    Thanks! I've printed out the sample card so when I find that 'right' mare, I'll be able to check for At. I haven't found another lab that does that test.
         
        01-04-2013, 03:50 AM
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    Thanks! I've printed out the sample card so when I find that 'right' mare, I'll be able to check for At. I haven't found another lab that does that test.
    Pet DNA is the only lab that offers it.
         
        01-04-2013, 02:19 PM
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    Thanks for the info everyone. This will help in my search for the "perfect" mare!
         

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