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#1 ·
The father is Pali and white paint and the mother is fleabitten grey.
Thoughts on what he/she may come out to be? :)

Name suggestions welcome.

I have included pics but unsure if theyre working, if not will try again
 

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I have no interest in blood tests, so I have nada on the data end. But the stallion that got after my mare (twice, no less), was a brown & white paint, with a black tail. One filly was born black and white, one brown and white, both turned into stunning blue roan paints. The eldest ended up with a partial blue eye, as well. I have no idea what his actual lineage was, as he wasn't ours. But our little fillies were drop-dead gorgeous.
 
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Ok, I'm going to call grullo. I feel like his butt says it all, and I have trouble imagining that black head as being blonde, one day. So I'm going to call flea bitten grullo paint. (I have a soft spot for freckles...)
 
#14 ·
What color was the mare before she greyed out (what color was she born)? What color were her parents?

Black is definitely a possibility if the mare was black-based (black, bay, brown) before she went grey.

Think of grey as a blanket. It can cover any color and all it takes is one copy of the gene for it to express.

Now, regarding Sugar's guess of "flea bitten grullo paint"...it's genetically not possible unless the mare or stallion were dun. Also, flea bitten refers to greys only, not to any other color.

Here's the thing, though. Foals who will grey out later in life are often born a very adult color, rather than the somewhat diluted, mousy color that foals are normal born. This foal, being that he is only one day old, is way darker/solid black than a foal would normally be.

So, my guess is that he is going to grey out eventually and you'll have a grey and white pinto. He'll turn completely white and then the only way you'll be able to tell that he is pinto is by wetting him down because the skin under his white parts will be pink and the skin under his colored parts will be black.
 
#24 ·
That's really neat. I knew none of that about grays. I'm still rooting for him to keep his paint on, though. :)

Brookemd, are you planning to keep him?
 
#25 ·
I'm still hoping he keeps it as well! Everyone who knows about horses who's actually seen him in person says he'll keep it. So who knows! Yep definitely. He's our first baby. He'll be mine as long as he reaches 15.3 hh otherwise he'll be my nieces but my hopes are up! By the looks of him he should reach about 16h potentially taller. I've always wanted to have s horse that I've raised. I can imagine the bond being much stronger :)
 
#32 ·
If the mare is grey, then the baby has a 50/50 chance of having the greying gene, and if so, will unfortunately turn white eventually.
Often, it is easy to tell, even as a foal, for there usually will be some greying around the eyes
What color was the mother, before she greyed? Looks like chestnut, by her mane.
Colt has not inherited the dilution gene for palomino from the sire, so at the moment, appears like a dark chestnut marked Paint, and hopefully did not inherit the greying gene for the dam
Well, the lighter patches, does have me wondering as to whether he inherited the greying gene. Can you post close up pics of hair around the eyes?
 
#34 ·
really appreciate your reply thanks for that. this is the best ive got at the moment of around his eyes. appears to just be black and maybe slightly has the golden hairs that are in the black all over his body and face. unfortunately i dont know the original colour of the mare and have no way of finding out.








 
#33 ·
Yes, grey is not a base color, but rather a dominant color modifier, that causes colored hair to be re-placed with non pigmented hair
The rate of expression, as noted varies, with some horses turning white slowly over the years, and others very rapidly.
The greying gene is esp un desirable in colored breeds, as it destroys all contrasting markings
A grey horse can be born any color. Those rose grey horses usually started out as chestnuts and those steel greys as blacks
Mane and tail hair sometimes take longer to loose all color
My Appaloosa mare, bred by transported semen, and not knowing at the time, that the sire carried the greying gene, was born very loud colored. She was chestnut, with a large blanket, blaze and high stockings. Within a year she was white
If that foal's dark markings are true black and not very dark brown, then the mother had to have been black or bay
 
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