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post #21 of 26 Old 11-06-2013, 02:25 AM
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I said that to NdAppy one day when looking up pictures of Can't Hear Guns to post here. She's genetically a bay splash, but being a Gunner crossed with a different Spl1 line, she ended up completely white. If I were her breeder, I would have crapped my pants when she was born.

I saw another gelding for sale on a local facebook classified page that was solid white except for tiny spot apparently on his nose. Stupid APHA registered him as a Solid too. Headdesk.
I can relate to that the APHA registered Pepper as a red roan but I guess he's not he only DW that that's happened to.


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Dreamcatcher - wasn't there recently some new information where they believe a rare form of splash we can't test for yet seems to also be lethal in homozygous form? I can't remember where or why I think I heard that. Maybe that explains your girl having an LWO foal? I know there's been rumors and whispers of non-frame parents producing LWO regardless?
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Yes, supposedly Splash 2 & 3 are the ones that result in non-viable embryos, she tested n/n for both of those and heterozygous for Spl1. Her previous owner was a little old lady and she didn't understand LWO very well, but she had said that Boo had had a foal by a "different stallion" and lost it to LWO. She was blaming the stallion for the LWO which, I suppose you can say it's his fault, if the mare is LWO and you breed to an LWO stallion, the baby couldn't have been homozygous but for the stallion......LOL! Anyhow, I wasn't able to test until after her foal was born, so you can imagine my relief to see a nice solid little colt when she delivered.

Now that I know she's got nothing but splash and sabino going on, I won't ever bother to try to get a pattern out of her, I'll just breed to a nice, solid stallion and let her put some extra chrome on the babies with the splash.
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Why not contact UC Davis about this?
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I said that to NdAppy one day when looking up pictures of Can't Hear Guns to post here. She's genetically a bay splash, but being a Gunner crossed with a different Spl1 line, she ended up completely white. If I were her breeder, I would have crapped my pants when she was born.

I saw another gelding for sale on a local facebook classified page that was solid white except for tiny spot apparently on his nose. Stupid APHA registered him as a Solid too. Headdesk.
Makes me wonder how many foals people put down thinking they are lethal white when they truly aren't.
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If they even know about it. I imagine the actual lethal whites come more as a surprise to people when their foal is suddenly colicking because I feel like the average horse owner probably doesn't know much about it.
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There is a APHA stallion that stands around here. His breeder almost did put him down at birth thinking he was Lethal white. He is considered primarily a max sabino.I Believe he is Palomino overo ,but is register as White solid bred Whata Lethal Weapon (Taz)

Also know another girl that had her horse tested for OLW she had results that he was negative. We said no way he was classic frame in appearance. She went on & advertised him as being negative. I never did believe results,lab she used had history of sometimes having inaccurate results,but she never did retest. Well she believed after he sired a OLW baby
UCD is a reputable lab & having 2 tests you have to wonder what else may be going on with these horses posted,agree I would say they should test positive for Frame ???

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