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  • Weird colored icelandic pony
  • Strange foal color on icelandic horse

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    11-15-2011, 09:33 PM
  #11
Weanling
Hi James. To be a registered American Paint Horse is not just the colour it requires strict bloodlines and horse stock horse body types. To register with the APHA the sire and the dam must be registered with the APHA, the American Quarter Horse Association or the Jockey Club (thoroughbred registry). At least one parent must be a registered american paint horse. To be eligible for the regular registry the horse must have minimum amounts of white with pink skin. You can look up the whole description on the official APHA website. It's very informative.
     
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    11-15-2011, 09:34 PM
  #12
Foal
If that's the case then it would be under pinto registry not paint.
     
    11-15-2011, 10:02 PM
  #13
Foal
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    





If it's a bay overo but there is no black showing - all legs, mane, tail are white - then it's not a tri-color but still is a bay Overo or Tobiano. I think it's a perfectly valid term to use to describe that all 3 colors - white, and whatever other 2 colors are appropriate, whether it's bay or buckskin or whatever - are showing.

It also means that neither parent is homozygous for the Agouti gene, which is what turns a black horse into a bay. So, each parent is E?Aa, meaning they have at least one copy of black (the Extension locus, the E) and since they are bay but produced a black horse, they are heterozygous for Agouti - Aa. If either were AA, the foal would have been bay. If one was aa, that one would have been black and not bay.


From paint breeders/trainers/showers


Tri means three meaning buckskin, dun, champagne with pinto markings are all tri colored.
     
    11-15-2011, 10:20 PM
  #14
Started
You have a bay overo pinto.

As far as the tri color thing goes think people use that term to make the horse sound more rare/special,lol
Any serious breeder,show person I know never uses that term...
     
    11-15-2011, 10:31 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by fresh paint girl    

Tri means three meaning buckskin, dun, champagne with pinto markings are all tri colored.
Why even call them that? There's nothing more special about a bay tobiano than a sorrel tobiano, so why make it sound "speshul" and refer to it as tri-colored?

By that standard, any bay, buckskin, color with black points, etc, with any sort of white marking would be referred to as "tri-colored". I have a SPB mare that has a large blaze. That's 3 colors on her body. She must be tri-colored too.
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    11-15-2011, 10:33 PM
  #16
Foal
Exactly what my point was
All of them are tri colored not quite sure why I put it in the first time but they are all tri colored
And that icelandic pony was just weird.

Just somewhat proving a point
     
    11-15-2011, 10:36 PM
  #17
Trained
It is not tricolored. You are completely wrong in that respect.

That "weird" pony is a true tricolored horse. He has both sorrel and black in addition to a white pattern.

In no way shape or form is a bay (or any version of black and aqouti) with a white pattern a tricolored horse. Genetics do not work that way.
     
    11-15-2011, 10:37 PM
  #18
Trained
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Originally Posted by fresh paint girl
exactly what my point was
All of them are tri colored not quite sure why I put it in the first time but they are all tri colored
And that icelandic pony was just weird.

Just somewhat proving a point
..what?
     
    11-15-2011, 10:41 PM
  #19
Foal
Any horse can be called a tri color but a horse that is brown black and white is tri colored
Tri means three
And nvm its gotten a tad out of hand
In the world of PAINTS tri is bay, buckskin ect...
     
    11-15-2011, 10:43 PM
  #20
Trained
You've lost me.

Any APHA breeder I've seen has never once used the word "tricolor" on their website.
     

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