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    02-05-2012, 04:50 PM
So, let me ask you this question. I understand the pinto / paint difference (pattern vs. breed). My horse is a pinto patterned appy grade horse. The vet, who owns and rides thoroughbreds thinks she has some thoroghbred in her. She said she may be "Appy, Paint, and Thoroghbred". I'm not sure why she would say "Paint" unless she thinks that she has some Paint breed - maybe the thoroghbred blood lined Paint? I'm assuming a vet would know that Paint is a breed, not a color pattern?
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    02-05-2012, 05:01 PM
Just because a person is a vet doesn't mean they are all knowing. A lot of people see pinto pattern and automatically assume it is a paint of some sort.
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    02-06-2012, 04:38 AM
Well, yes, Pinto is just a colour-pattern whereas Paint is a breed based on quarters and thoroughbred. If you look just for a coloured horse any pinto may be O-K. If you look for character there are many paint blood lines to choose from. In my eyes the colour just doesn’t matter, a strong character is the thing you may look for.

Funny thing I have experienced. There were two or three 2-yearolds for sale and they look like Appies but were just pintos. No paper, no pedigree.
    02-06-2012, 10:25 AM
From Pinto Horse Association's website:


Originally established primarily as a color registry, today the association has grown to offer four conformation types. In addition to the four types of horses, PtHA also has separate divisions for ponies, miniatures and utility horses.
Many spotted equines are eligible for registration with the Pinto Horse Association of America, Inc. Listed below are the qualificatons of a Pinto as well as a few restrictions.
PtHA accepts horses and utility horses from many different outcross breeds including:
  • Accepted horse outcross breeds by type are:
    Stock/Hunter Types
    • American Bashkir Curly Horse Registry
    • American Buckskin Registry Association
    • American Paint Horse Association
    • American Quarter Horse Association
    • American Warmblood Society
    • Belgian Warmblood Breeding Association
    • Hanoverian
    • Holsteiner
    • Hungarian Warmblood
    • International Buckskin Horse Association
    • International Curly Horse Association
    • Jockey Club [Thoroughbred]
    • North American Spotted Haflinger
    • Oldenburg
    • Oldenburg of America
    • Trakhener
    • United States Trotting Association [Standardbred]
    • Westphalian
    Pleasure/Saddle Types
    • American Hackney Horse Society
    • American Morgan Horse Registry
    • American Saddlebred Horse Association
    • American Saddlebred Horse Association of Canada
    • Arabian Horse Registry
    • Canadian Arabian Horse Registry
    • Dutch Harness
    • Half Arabian Horse Registration
    • International Andalusian and Lusitano Horse Association
    • Missouri Fox Trotting Horse Breed Association
    • National Show Horse Registry
    • Paso Fino
    • Pleasure Saddle Horse Registry
    • Tennessee Walking Horse Breeders and Exhibitors Association
    Accepted Utility horse outcross breeds are:
    Gypsy and Drum Types
    • American Drum Horse Association
    • Gypsy Cob and Drum Horse Association
    • Gypsy Horse Association
    • Gypsy Horse Registry of America
    • Gypsy Vanner Horse Society
    • The Gypsy Cob Society (Ireland)
    • The Gypsy Cob Society (United Kingdom)
    Accepted pony outcross breeds are:
    Stock/Hunter Types
    • American Paint Pony Registry
    • American Quarter Pony Association
    • American Shetland Pony Club
    • Chinioteague Pony
    • Connemara
    • North American Spotted Haflinger
    • Welsh Pony Society of America
    • all recognized horse outcross breeds
    Pleasure/Saddle Types
    • American Hackney Horse Society
    • American Shetland Pony Club
    • Missouri Foxtrotting Pony
    Accepted miniature outcross breeders are:
    • American Miniature Horse Association
    • American Miniature Horse Registry
    • Gold Seal Miniature Horse Registry
    • International Miniature Horse Registry
    • World Class Miniature
PtHA can also register horse mares and geldings based on their color alone as well as any sex of ponies and minis.
The PtHA does not accept any horses with Appaloosa, draft or mule breeding and/or characteristics or known breeding within the previous four generations, except for utility classified horses.
Horse stallions cannot be registered unless both parents are registered with PtHA or a PtHA approved outcross breed. Ponies and miniature stallions can be registered with undocumented parentage.
A Pinto horse must have four square inches of cumulative white in the qualifying zone and underlying pink skin or have documented color on outcross papers. The color requirement is modified with the size of the equine requiring only three square inches for ponies and two square inches for miniatures.
The equines that do not meet the color requirement, but have at least two or more Pinto characteristics (blue eyes; leg white above the knee or hock; white or multi-colored hooves; collective white in the eligible zones, but not enough to qualify for color; pink skin) are registered Breeding Stock. If the equines are registered with approved outcross breeds but don't meet the color requirement, these equines can also be registered Breeding Stock. Breeding Stock Pintos are not allowed to participate in PtHA events unless specified by the event rules.
New Color Rule Addition
Approved in the spring 2009 by the Pinto Horse Association of America Inc. - Any horse, pony or miniature, currently registered with an approved outcross registry, with documented Pinto characteristics on the outcross papers, is eligible for registry with the PtHA.
In order to simplify the registration process for qualified Pintos, the PtHA registration department will begin evaluating applicants who are already registered with an approved outcross registry and who have documented color on the outcross papers. Documented color such as “Pinto markings,” “belly spots,” or “high leg white” will serve as qualification for PtHA registry in lieu of the required 4 square cumulative inches, provided that all other qualifications (i.e. Appaloosa bloodline, mule or draft characteristics restrictions) are met. Undocumented animals and animals with no color documented on their outcross papers will still be required to meet the current PtHA color requirements. Photos are still required.
Examples include any horse accepted into the regular registry of the American Paint Horse Association, any miniature with registration papers that document "Pinto," or any horse registered with the Arabian Horse Association with a belly spot or high leg white documented on the registration papers.
If in doubt, please contact the PtHA Registration Department with any questions, or (405) 491-0111.

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