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        02-17-2013, 01:33 AM
      #21
    Trained
    It may be possible she's carrying silver, but because she's red-based (every color has either a red or a black base, then other modifiers are added to change the actual color we see), we wouldn't know because silver doesn't change the color of red (ie, chestnut, palomino, cremello, red dun, etc). And guessing colors based on a name doesn't help this case very much.

    And I agree with Chiilaa, after looking at your other pictures, her mane is too red to be palomino. Sooty palominos just look dirty, while your mare's mane also has pieces of dark red in it.
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        02-17-2013, 01:36 AM
      #22
    Foal
    A few more pictures..
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        02-17-2013, 01:37 AM
      #23
    Trained
    Maybe red dun based on that last picture, but still definitely not palomino.
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        02-17-2013, 01:39 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    I don't remember what modifier causes what color eyes and such, but she has amber eyes. Would silver do that? Not that we'll ever really know without genetic testing for sure, but in the interest of learning...

    ETA-I was thinking that I saw dorsal stripe!

    I'm thinking Red dun+ a dilute of some sort. This is a plain red dun icy-

         
        02-17-2013, 01:41 AM
      #25
    Trained
    Champagne most commonly causes amber colored eyes. However, chestnut + champagne = gold champagne, which looks very similar to palomino and nothing like this mare.
         
        02-17-2013, 01:42 AM
      #26
    Foal
    This is more of how her color looks to me.. these picture are more red than she is.. Sorry still don't see the red LOL ... and I see her everyday..but you guys know more than I so I am just trying to represent her color better..
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        02-17-2013, 01:43 AM
      #27
    Trained
    I'm sorry, but what color do you see? She certainly isn't a black-based horse. I don't mean red like human red hair that's orange, I mean like red-brown. Yes, she has some light colors in her mane and tail, but that's pretty common for chestnuts.
         
        02-17-2013, 01:46 AM
      #28
    Yearling
    The only other thing I could come up with is this and I'm not convinced...

         
        02-17-2013, 01:58 AM
      #29
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Poseidon    
    Champagne most commonly causes amber colored eyes. However, chestnut + champagne = gold champagne, which looks very similar to palomino and nothing like this mare.
    As well as that, champagne is a "new world" mutation and as such is not found in Icelandics.
         
        02-17-2013, 02:00 AM
      #30
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    As well as that, champagne is a "new world" mutation and as such is not found in Icelandics.
    That just crossed my mind and I was googling with no avail other than a very poorly informed, poorly made website that basically said, "Um..we don't know if it's there." with a couple of pictures of brown-based buckskins.
         

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