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    11-23-2010, 11:19 PM
  #11
Weanling
Some roaning around his eye:


Neck and throatlatch:


Side shot (you can see it especially in his hip area):

Please ignore the dangerous lean-to...it has been upgraded since this picture was taken!

You can kinda see it on his hindquarters here:


His roaning is much easier to see in person. He is nowhere near as "roany" as his father, Skip N Easy, though!

     
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    11-24-2010, 01:48 AM
  #12
Yearling
True roan doesn't affect the face like that, the roaning would be restricted to the rest of his body, but his head would remain dark. His sire looks like a chestnut Sabino to me, which gives him his tall stockings, white face, & "roaning", but I don't think he is a true roan.
     
    11-24-2010, 08:42 AM
  #13
Trained
Yup Quixotic is right on that one. Roan doesn't affect the face. I am also going to go with sabino, but I could be wrong.

He definitely isn't a roan though, but still gorgeous.
     
    11-24-2010, 02:12 PM
  #14
Weanling
If Scotch isn't a roan, why does he have white hairs everywhere? Is a sabino a type of paint marking? I've never heard of sabino before...
     
    11-24-2010, 02:23 PM
  #15
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
A palomino will have a golden shine on their coat. A chestnut will have a bronze or copper shine.
This. A palomino will have more of a yellowish tint, even under heavy soot coloring whereas a chestnut will range from an orangey to a reddish or copper color.

See this horse? Even with the darker sooty coloring, you can still see the golden base in the sun.


Whereas this horse, which could easily be mistaken for a darker palomino, actually has more of a copper hue to her coat.
     
    11-24-2010, 02:50 PM
  #16
Green Broke
CharliGirl, I don't think he is roan. I think white hairs on the coat like that are called ticking? I may be wrong, its something like that! Its quite common on red horses.
     
    11-24-2010, 04:47 PM
  #17
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharliGirl    
If Scotch isn't a roan, why does he have white hairs everywhere? Is a sabino a type of paint marking? I've never heard of sabino before...
Sabino is an Overo PINTO pattern. (Paint is a breed... Pinto is the coloration) It can occur within any breed, though some definitely show a stronger tendancy of it. In it most minimal form you may only see occasional white hairs on the body - or a star/sock.... in it's most extreme form you'll have a white horse.

Scotch looks like a pretty typical Sabino to me, between his white markings and roaning over the whole body... his sire is one as well... possibly one or both of them also carry a gene called Rabicano - which is very similar, though usually displays a "coon tail" (a more heavily roaned stripe above the tail)

True Roan is a totally separate gene, and it requires at least one parent to carry the gene, and pass it on. In true roans only their body will get white hairs - their head, legs, mane and tail stay solid. The roaning will change seasonally (the horse will appear more roan during some seasons and more solid during others)
     
    11-24-2010, 04:55 PM
  #18
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharliGirl    
Some roaning around his eye:


Neck and throatlatch:


Side shot (you can see it especially in his hip area):

Please ignore the dangerous lean-to...it has been upgraded since this picture was taken!

You can kinda see it on his hindquarters here:


His roaning is much easier to see in person. He is nowhere near as "roany" as his father, Skip N Easy, though!

You have a very pretty horse.
     
    11-24-2010, 04:58 PM
  #19
Weanling
Sorry to double post, but is there a coloring called a chocolate palomino? I test rode a barrel horse named badger. The owners said he was a chocolate palomino. Is there even such a coloring called a chocolate palomino?
     
    11-24-2010, 05:04 PM
  #20
Yearling
Yes... and no. LOL

It's a term used to describe a very dark palomino.

Chestnut can have a wide range of darkness to the coat (countershading)... Palomino's are chesnuts with a cream gene added... so they too can have a wide variety of countershading to their coat... some being so pale they're nearly cream and others being so dark they actually appear black.
     

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