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post #1 of 17 Old 11-13-2012, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Pangare or brown?

So I was starting to wonder about Jets pangare. I know that young horses often have pangare but now that he is a year and a half I thought it might have gone away by now since he's gone through a few coat changes. So if it is just baby pangare how long does that stay around or will he keep it? I was toying around with him possibly being brown but he has the light points in the summer as well and I thought browns only get those in the winter though I could be wrong I don't know a lot about brown. Anyways I'd love to learn more so thanks guys. His breed is a quarter horse/paint. I'll post a few pics starting from youngest to this years winter coat .

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post #2 of 17 Old 11-13-2012, 04:49 PM
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Yea, I think its very possible he could be a pangare.
I was always taught brown isn't really a color, but that's not true for everybody.
He got a great conformation, but anyway, he's defiantly a bay (almost looks like he becomes a pretend dun by his summer coat lol, just because his color is so dull)
So I would say he a pangare or just a lightly shaded bay. :)

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I have no idea but he sure is purdy!!!!

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Thanks guys! I was taught brown wasn't a color as well but now they have found it genetically. Bays are Ag and browns are At. Think I remembered that right.....I hope.

Here is his sire.



Here is his dam my pally mare Joy

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Well he's not a bay, because his nose is light and the rest of his "soft" parts are also a light color

Bay and Brown are genetically different, by the tiniest bit.
His sire is brown

My mare is brown, because her soft spots are also lighter(:
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Well he's not a bay, because his nose is light and the rest of his "soft" parts are also a light color

Bay and Brown are genetically different, by the tiniest bit.
His sire is brown

My mare is brown, because her soft spots are also lighter(:
Believe it or not Jet's sire (Mojo) has a creme gene his sire is a cremello. Jets sire belongs to my friend and he lived with me for awhile when he was a weanling and a little when he was a yearling. He was golden buckskin colored till he was two then he gradually darkened he is 5 now and he is now chocolate gold colored. He's two or 3 in the pic above.

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That's really cool!!!
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Peppy, do you think Jet will do the same then?
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Jet's sire is brown based buckskin.

As for Jet, it is hard to tell if he is brown or bay, but he is definitely pangare too.

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I was always taught brown isn't really a color, but that's not true for everybody.
I was taught the same thing. However, the gene that causes brown is now isolated, and you can test for it.

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