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    01-15-2013, 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Casey02    
You do not have to have the owners permission IF YOU took the photo it doesn't matter if a person was in it or not. Hence paparazzi. Anyway she is a beautifully colored mare
The paparazzi are allowed to do that because those celebrities appear in public places, or are visible from a place that the paparazzo has legal permission to be on (using a long lens). It really isn't the best comparison using a public figure whose marketability is usually increased by any publicity vs a piece of private property photographed on private property. It can be argued that an unflattering photo of a horse taken without permission can affect that horse's value.
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    01-15-2013, 07:47 PM
Just because a photo may be unflattering doesn't make it illegal to use. Now, if you're using an unflattering photo specifically to slander that horse (or the breeding program, etc.) then you're running into other laws (slander or libel, depending on the situation) not because you used a photo of that horse, but in what you were using it for.

Again, if the horse's owner gets upset because a picture of her horse is on the internet in a completely neutral thread such as this one where there really isn't even enough information to identify the horse, she can let the person who posted it know she's angry or upset about it, never speak to her again, stop inviting her over for Christmas dinner, etc. but it's not illegal.

Originally Posted by NdAppy    
She's not being singled out. I've asked that of others as well.
Sorry, I hadn't seen the question put up in anyone else's threads.
    01-15-2013, 08:22 PM
I never used the terms "legal" or "illegal." Slander and liebel don't really matter either. The burden of proof in a civil matter is no where near what people think it is from TV. For instance, an interference with contract type case could be brought by someone who was damaged by a property value reduction based on photos being taken and used without permission. Lawyers can make all kinds of creative arguments based on what a client is willing to pay to pursue a claim.

This mare really has a unique color making her very pretty. I can understand why the OP wants to share her, but I know how extremely po'd I would be if someone used my horse for photos without permission. No it isn't criminal, but it is poor etiquette.

PS - I actually do have a law degree, so I might just know a little more than the general population. I do not usually let this information be known because I will not give any sort of opinion on legal matters.
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    01-15-2013, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by verona1016    

Sorry, I hadn't seen the question put up in anyone else's threads.
Really, because I've seen it posed plenty of times in threads where someone is posting photos of a horse that is not their own
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    01-15-2013, 08:41 PM
Are we really splitting hairs over these photos guys?

It's an innocent and curious question that Breezy is asking.....she hasn't posted a picture of Prince Harry showing his moon, nor has she named the horse, owner or location.......

Breezy has shown a real interest in learning and asking questions, she has also shown a real dedication to taking care of her little filly.....As far as I have seen..

I usually agree with most of you, but this is not worth getting worked up over.
    01-15-2013, 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by themacpack    
Really, because I've seen it posed plenty of times in threads where someone is posting photos of a horse that is not their own
    01-15-2013, 09:39 PM
Have to agree with Muppet on this one.
I understand that everybody is still worked up about the recent weirdo threads, but this is not one, IMO.
Save your strength for the weirdos to come guys
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    01-16-2013, 05:27 PM
Agreed in the this case where no one is named I think it's a simple harmless question.
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    01-16-2013, 07:48 PM
Holy cow! The girl asked a simple question on a coat pattern. There is no need to bash her on taking a picture of another person's horse. She did clearly state that she HAD the owner's permission, now lets move on. This isnt a "lets argue about legal photo BS" forum. Sheesh! As for the horse, I wouldnt say frame or sabino. Looks most likely to be a Splash Tobiano..
    01-17-2013, 05:34 PM
No it isn't criminal, but it is poor etiquette.

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And that's what I was getting at the whole time.

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