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    12-21-2012, 12:17 AM
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Perlino and cremellos

Ok....can some of you snazzy color experts please tell me the difference between a perlino and a cremello (and while you're here throw in the difference next to a palomino just for good measure) you all know I am crumby at all this color stuff and now that I'm in Canada I oughta learn about these colors! Especially the perlino and cremello as in NZ they are near non-existent......some pictures would help too! Haha sorry if I sound like a task master! I appreciate your help!
     
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    12-21-2012, 12:35 AM
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Weanling
Perlinos have one cream gene, Cremellos have two.
     
    12-21-2012, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EthanQ    
Perlinos have one cream gene, Cremellos have two.
Thanks! Ok, so what are the physical differences?.....say if I had two side by side, how could I tell the difference without pulling DNA and starting to unravel it haha!
     
    12-21-2012, 12:44 AM
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Weanling
Perlinos will have a darker tint to their manes and tails, while cremellos are pure lighter. And Perlinos can sometimes have distinct white markings like any other horse.

Perlino

Cremello.

Just practice judging the colors between them. Practice makes perfect!
     
    12-21-2012, 12:49 AM
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Oh yes, I see. Ok, does a cremello have darker skin? Silly question? It looks like the cremello has a darker tint to its whole body? Right? Wrong? Thanks for the pics!
     
    12-21-2012, 01:59 AM
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Yearling
Incorrect. Perlino and cremello both have double cream gene. Perlino is bay with two cream genes, cremello is chestnut with two cream genes. Generally a perlino will have orangish points and a cremello will be an overall cream color. Both have blue eyes and pink skin.
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    12-21-2012, 02:48 AM
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Green Broke
Cream is fun. It is a incomplete dominant, which means that it has greater influence on the colour of the horse if it is homozygous, but still acts while heterozygous.

Let's start with a red horse (also known as chestnut or sorrel). If we then add one cream gene, it becomes a palomino. Add another, so the horse has two cream genes, and it becomes a cremello.

So - no cream gene:


One cream gene:


Two cream genes:


The same applies to a bay based horse, but with a slight exception. Cream LOVES to act on red hair, but isn't so great on black hair. This is what causes buckskins to keep their dark points. So a bay horse with no cream is bay, one cream gene is buckskin, and two cream genes is perlino. As you can see, two copies of cream DOES act on the black hair, but not to the extent that it does on red - you can still see some colour on the points of the horse, and the rusty tone to the mane and tail. Brown horses are much the same as bay, but often misidentified as "smutty buckskin" with one cream, and often hard to distinguish from smoky cream with two creams.

So, no cream:


One cream:


Two cream:
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    12-21-2012, 02:55 AM
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Green Broke
As noted in my last post, black is harder for cream to act on. Hence, cream, while being a dominant, can seemingly hide on a black horse when the cream is only present with one gene. When there are two cream genes, the black is diluted hugely. The resulting colour is called smoky cream.

Black horse, no cream:


Black horse, one cream (smoky black):


Black horse, two creams (smoky cream):
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    12-21-2012, 03:23 AM
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Ok I'll admit ahead of time, colors are not my strong point. I really don't need them to be as I don't buy on color or breed. So as long as a horse is a good ride it can have hello kitty painted on its rump! Lol. Anyways, I do wonder about a few things as I like to learn. We have a grey horse that has a pink nose. Does that have anything to do with the with the "melo" gene/ breeding?
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    12-21-2012, 03:25 AM
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I like the way you explained that chiilaa. Granted I like the way you explain most things. I'm sure that will help many people its simple informative and has pictures. Well done.
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