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    11-04-2012, 12:31 AM
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Pinto Colouring Probability?

Hello Everyone,

I am new to this forum and I have a mare that I am planning on breeding. I'm wondering if anyone is knowledgeable in how exactly the genetics on this one would work? My horse Lilly's sire was a Bay Tovero, (heterozygous for Bay, not sure about the Tovero part) and her Dam a Sorrel Anglo-Arab. Lilly ended up being a solid bay. The stallion I am breeding her to in the Spring is a black tobiano, heterozygous for both black and tobiano. Does anyone know what my odds would be of getting Paint colour? Does it matter that she carries the paint genes? Or would her being solid discredit that? I've read about so many different factors, my head is spinning, so any insight would be appreciated.
     
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    11-04-2012, 12:35 AM
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Any chance you could post a picture of your mare so we can see what she has going on?

If you really want to know exactly what she has, you can have her tested for what genes she carries. UC Davis does testing.
     
    11-04-2012, 12:39 AM
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Your probably going to get a lot of comments that are going to hurt your feelings on this subject.
Not every horse should be bred. Is your horse's conformation, temperment etc so good that you are going to be adding to the breed. There are so many unwanted horses in the world, why add another.
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    11-04-2012, 12:41 AM
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Here are some pictures. I realize she is incredibly fat here... She really didn't inherit any type of pinto/paint colouring whatsoever. Aside from having a spot on her lower lip, she is pretty much a clone of her mom for markings.

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    11-04-2012, 12:46 AM
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Pinto patterns can be very mysterious A "solid" horse with "normal" white markings still has at least one pinto pattern, as every bit of white is caused by one of them (except scarring, but that's different lol). I can see that your mare has at least two - sabino and splash. Sabino because of the lip spot, and the way the face white is so even, splash because of how even the white on her legs is.

I would definitely test her for frame, also known as lethal white overo. Her test results in that would greatly influence what stallions you could breed her to. If she does carry frame, then you would not want to breed her to a stallion that also carries frame, as they have a 25% chance of producing a lethal white foal, which will die within about 72 hours of birth.
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    11-04-2012, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chandra1313    
Your probably going to get a lot of comments that are going to hurt your feelings on this subject.
Not every horse should be bred. Is your horse's conformation, temperment etc so good that you are going to be adding to the breed. There are so many unwanted horses in the world, why add another.
I'm not really sure what to make of your comment as I don't know what you mean by "adding to the breed." Lilly does have a few conformation faults, however, she has an extremely sweet temperament and is very intelligent. The stallion to whom I've chosen to breed her has excellent conformation and disposition and was highpoint sr stock stallion, highpoint tobiano color horse and supreme colour champion in the 2005 Canadian Pinto National Show. Perhaps I should have clarified that I am not looking only for colour. If I get another solid foal, it will be just as wanted and loved as the one I currently have.
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    11-04-2012, 12:55 AM
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I'm not really sure what to make of your comment as I don't know what you mean by "adding to the breed." Lilly does have a few conformation faults, however, she has an extremely sweet temperament and is very intelligent. The stallion to whom I've chosen to breed her has excellent conformation and disposition and was highpoint sr stock stallion, highpoint tobiano color horse and supreme colour champion in the 2005 Canadian Pinto National Show. Perhaps I should have clarified that I am not looking only for colour. If I get another solid foal, it will be just as wanted and loved as the one I currently have.

Well, I've posted some pictures. Her conformation is fair - she does have a few faults, like she's a bit
Are you Canadian?
     
    11-04-2012, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
Pinto patterns can be very mysterious A "solid" horse with "normal" white markings still has at least one pinto pattern, as every bit of white is caused by one of them (except scarring, but that's different lol). I can see that your mare has at least two - sabino and splash. Sabino because of the lip spot, and the way the face white is so even, splash because of how even the white on her legs is.

I would definitely test her for frame, also known as lethal white overo. Her test results in that would greatly influence what stallions you could breed her to. If she does carry frame, then you would not want to breed her to a stallion that also carries frame, as they have a 25% chance of producing a lethal white foal, which will die within about 72 hours of birth.
Thank you for your reply! I had no idea about the sabino and splash markings! Her dam (who was an Arab) had the same white socks on the hind legs, but they were not even at all like Lilly. I didn't know that was considered a paint characteristic. Very interesting.
     
    11-04-2012, 01:01 AM
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Are you Canadian?
I am indeed.
     
    11-04-2012, 01:06 AM
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I am indeed.
Haha thought so I am too!
     

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