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        08-05-2014, 04:32 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Ok Lets try these pics





         
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        08-05-2014, 07:08 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    From long ago here are the rules of thumb I use to tell a paint/pinto pattern, of which there are/were 3:

    • Tobiano:
      • 4 white legs
      • body white is connected and goes over the back
      • face could be mistaken for a solid colored horse
      • ie a white horse with dark areas
      • 2 tone tail
    • Overo :
      • dark horse with white areas
      • legs often dark with jagged white
      • facial white often going off side of face
      • if white over the eye area, then blue eye
        • 3 subcategories of Overo (not specified on papers)
          • Frame
            • dark down the spine with white areas on the sides
            • many have lightning bolts on legs
            • reminiscent of a picture frame (ie white picture with dark frame)
          • Splash
            • looks like someone was underneath them and threw/sprayed white paint up onto them
          • Scattered White
            • 3 more:
              • roan
                • white hairs throughout
                • heavier white on body than neck/head/legs
              • sabino
                • sort of like a splash and roan mixed
              • rabicano
                • sabino with a skunk tail, and
                • white hairs concentrating to form almost stripes along the ribcage.
    • Tovero:
      • basically a Tobiano pattern influenced by Overo
        • many primarily white with shields and flank spots only
      • many medicine hats, war bonnets ....
    Probably way outdated, and possibly some lost due to memory fading in my old age. One thing about the patterns is that when speaking of color you are referring to the white. So a loudly colored horse is one with a lot of white.

    I would appreciate being corrected as necessary, so I don't go on thinking these things if they are not so.

    Here is Pickle, a Tobiano:
    Pickle Tobiano.jpg

    Bart, a Frame Overo:
    Bart Frame.jpg

    Daisy, a Medicine Hat Tovero:
    Daisy Tovero.jpg

    And finally 2 of Irish, a Rabacino:
    Irish rabacino.jpg
    2003 Irish rabacino 2.jpg
         
        08-05-2014, 07:26 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Hmmmm.... ok so my Dutch is probably considered Tobiano? But he doesn't have a 2 toned tail. So how hard and fast is that rule?
         
        08-05-2014, 08:51 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Rules are made to be broken, and they are more guidelines than rules anyway.

    I'd say he is Tobiano, I have Dewey, an unreg SSH, who is Tobiano with an all black tail, and consider myself lucky for that (his mane is white, forelock is black).

    2007 DeweyFairPossessionPhoto.jpg


    All the previous pics were of registered APHA horses that I have owned, and did not loose all their pics when changing computers.
         
        08-05-2014, 08:55 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Yup, gotta love that dark tail! I've got a grey/white mare with a streaky mane and while tail. Whew! Try to keep that clean!
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        08-06-2014, 01:57 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    Yours looks like a bay tobiano to me.

    A simple rule of thumb is if the white crosses the spine anywhere from withers to tail head they are tobiano. Solid color (other than white of course) down the length of the spine is overo. This is the most basic explanation and there are variations of the overo pattern. Get them down pat in your mind and get used to recognizing those two patterns then move on to the more complicated things. I don't say that to be offensive just that once you those 2 patterns set in your mind it's easier to start understanding the other patterns, at least it worked that way for me.

    Looking at lots of pictures of pinto horses can help too.
         
        08-06-2014, 09:32 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    Thank you! I'll do that
         
        08-06-2014, 10:07 AM
      #18
    Yearling
    My husbands horse is a minimally marked red dun tobiano.
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        08-10-2014, 02:05 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JCnGrace    
    Yours looks like a bay tobiano to me.

    A simple rule of thumb is if the white crosses the spine anywhere from withers to tail head they are tobiano. Solid color (other than white of course) down the length of the spine is overo. This is the most basic explanation and there are variations of the overo pattern. Get them down pat in your mind and get used to recognizing those two patterns then move on to the more complicated things. I don't say that to be offensive just that once you those 2 patterns set in your mind it's easier to start understanding the other patterns, at least it worked that way for me.

    Looking at lots of pictures of pinto horses can help too.
    Yeah, even though overo and tovero are really outdated terms, this is probably the easiest way to start getting the grasp of things. Then you can expand from there and learn the reasons why those terms are no longer work in most cases.
         
        08-10-2014, 02:25 AM
      #20
    Yearling
    Ok. Thanks
         

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