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  • Sorrel horse with dorsal stripes
  • Sorrel or red dun foal?

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    01-03-2012, 11:01 AM
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Weanling
Red Dun or Sorrel?

The general consensus is sorrel, but she has a red dorsal stripe.
What do you guys think? Red dun or sorrel? Does a dorsal stripe automatically consider a horse to be a dun? In the summer, she fades out to be a deep gold color. In the winter her coat becomes more of a rich chestnut. Her mane and tail is flaxen with red "low lights." I totally wish I had her hair!! ;)

Dixie Lou is a $300 trail horse, that we love very much. She came from an auction with no papers. She is very Quarter looking, but has a sweet dished face and is built a little narrow like an Arab.
     
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    01-03-2012, 11:06 AM
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mls
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Sorrel
     
    01-03-2012, 11:10 AM
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Trained
Sorrel. With Flaxen. My mare has the same coloring, even a darker "dorsal stripe" but it's just shading...

This is a red dun...

     
    01-03-2012, 12:34 PM
  #4
Foal
If it has a dorsal, it is a dun, duns come in many shades Golden, Red, etc..
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    01-03-2012, 12:38 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by hillside farm    
If it has a dorsal, it is a dun, duns come in many shades Golden, Red, etc..
Not true. Many horses have countershading, which gives the impression of a dorsal.
True duns have to display more than just the dorsal, be it shoulder barring or zebra stripes on the legs. Also, to be a dun one of the parents has to have been a dun for the gene to be passed on. It is not something that just "crops up".

That mare appears to be a sorrel in these pictures, as the others have mentioned.
     
    01-03-2012, 03:53 PM
  #6
Trained
The horse looks sorrel to me too
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    01-03-2012, 06:07 PM
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Weanling
Agree with Ruffian. Plus from what I've seen/heard/read true dun dorsal stripes look a lot more crisp than just a countershading one which have blurry edges. You can tell by the picture of your mare compared to the port posted.

And btw, do they call it countershading or just shading? I feel like I've seen it both ways but I wasn't sure
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    01-03-2012, 06:12 PM
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Weanling
If the horse is a Quarter horse it is a sorrel. Duns usually have dorsal stripes, transverse lines on withers, stripes on legs and their tails are supposed to be black or brown not flaxen.
Sorrels do and can have a bit of a darker stripe along their spine but it doesnt make them dun without the other characteristics.
     
    01-03-2012, 06:52 PM
  #9
Weanling
I've never heard of the term countershading, which is interesting! She definitely doesn't have any transverse lines or zebra stripes.
     
    01-03-2012, 06:53 PM
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Trained
The horse looks half Quarter Horse half Arab
     

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