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    07-13-2011, 10:15 PM
His parent was a red roan.
Thanks smrobs!
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    07-13-2011, 10:42 PM
I owned a blue roan, and never realized how rare she apparently was. It reminds me of a heeler, when you brush their hair backwards you see their skin is actually blue/black. She was that way from birth on. The gray thing I am still trying to figure out (when they don't gray until they are older/shed out) so thanks, smrobs. Nice mare and foal!
    07-13-2011, 11:13 PM
Foal looks red to me, not grey. I think you either have a chestnut or a red roan. With the roan, sometimes it's not until their yearling or two year old shed that you can even tell.

As for the sire... Definitely grey.
    07-13-2011, 11:24 PM
Green Broke
First off, I am not a breeder and don't know a whole lot about genetics. My only qualification to even comment is that I had a foal last year out of my gray mare, and researched everything I could find about "gray" because I was also eager to know what color my colt was and if he would turn gray. (And he is!)

Well, my guess is that your baby is not gray, based only on the fact that he has light points. Apparently most gray foals are born with dark legs. But, in the photo where he is the youngest, he almost looks black, so that sort of throws things off for me.

But anyway, most gray foals have dark legs while most bay and chestnut foals have fawn colored legs.

They also say to look for stray white hairs, even a single one, especially on the face and around the eyes. That didn't prove a good clue with my baby however, as I could not find a single white hair on him when he was born (outside his white markings of course). My baby started getting his first scattered white hairs with his winter coat.

So take it with a grain of salt, because I honestly have no idea. But I'm guessing non-gray just based on the light colored legs.

PS. Here is Zane after he was born. He is a bay-going-gray. And the second photo is a "normal" bay foal.
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    07-13-2011, 11:52 PM
THR, I would guess that the picture of the very young foal that is dark is a different foal, likely as an ad pic for the mare.
    07-14-2011, 12:00 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by smrobs    
THR, I would guess that the picture of the very young foal that is dark is a different foal, likely as an ad pic for the mare.
That thought crossed my mind. But then the face markings look similar (from what I could tell at a side-angle on the dark foal). You are probably right though.
    07-14-2011, 11:05 AM
My QH mare is Red Roan on her registeration certificate, but looking at her from a distance she looks like she is just a Red/Chestnut,because she has so few white hair thorough out her body. Of her 3 foals the first was sired by a Blood Bay TB and that colt/gelding was a Sorrel. Then in 2003 I had her live-covered by a Grey Cutting-Bred QH Stallion and again in 2004 for full sisters. The first filly took months and months to decide what color she wanted to be as did the 2nd filly. The second filly I did register as a red roan, because she was not grey at registeration time. That did get changed by her currrent owners in Texas. The third and last filly did grey-out in her first few months after being foaled. [IMG]

    07-14-2011, 05:43 PM
Thanks for all the helpful replies! I haven't seen any stray white hairs either. I will post some current pics of him tonight after feeding time. He is such a character right now!
The darker foal (almost black) was a blue roan colt out of my mare by another stud. She also had a red roan filly that looks so similar to my colt. I can post a pic of her too, but it looks like she shedded out roan at 4 months.
    07-24-2011, 02:13 PM
Here are just 2 pics of my boy. Sorry if the pics are huge and horrible! I'm not the best at computers
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    07-24-2011, 02:15 PM
Oh and please....I know he needs his feet rasped. I was unable to catch the booger the day my farrier came out! I told you he was a character! And yes, he is very mad in these pictures....Learning to stand tied on a picket line

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