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        03-05-2014, 02:09 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    It's possible thought that her dam had grey...modifiers aren't listed
         
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        03-05-2014, 02:27 PM
      #22
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by EmsTNWalkers    
    It's possible thought that her dam had grey...modifiers aren't listed
    Neither of her dam's parents were grey, so grey is not a possibility for the dam. Grey is a simple dominant. If it is present, it will express. In order for it to be present, at least one parent must be grey. With the information given, it is not possible for your mare or her dam to be grey.
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        03-05-2014, 02:45 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    Right but what I'm saying is what if the dam WAS grey? Yet she was registered as chestnut as it was the base color, and generally when foals/colts/fillies....whatever...are registered they are young and the grey may not have expressed yet. I can see the sire wasn't grey as he has a picture. He was a black sabino.
         
        03-05-2014, 02:49 PM
      #24
    Yearling
    There's no pics of the Dam's dam either.
         
        03-05-2014, 03:41 PM
      #25
    Trained
    But neither of the dam's parents were grey, so the dam couldn't be. A good breeder can tell if a foal is going to be grey when it's born. So unless the dam's breeders were complete novices to the horse world, it's likely there is no grey in her lines.

    Generally, when a grey horse is registered, it is registered as grey, not as the base color with grey modifier.

    A foal that is going to go grey will generally be a very "adult" color when it is born, not the washed-out coloring that is typically associated with foals.
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        03-05-2014, 10:06 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    It's unlikely that the horse her dam and one or both of her grandparents were all misregistered. I'm going with just your girl :)
         
        03-05-2014, 10:27 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    No I don't mean misregistered...I mean that the modifier not being listed.
         
        03-06-2014, 12:00 AM
      #28
    Trained
    If grey is there as a modifier, it shows. You can't have a horse that "carries" grey without displaying it as well.
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        03-06-2014, 12:26 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    I guess I'm not following you as listed vs registered.

    Are you talking about listed on all breed? I find it much more likely that they would have grey than chestnut if the mare was grey. She's only going to look chestnut for the first year of her life or so, then will look grey. Who knows, it's possible but seems unlikely.
         
        03-06-2014, 01:34 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    No, what I'm saying is if the dam, dam's parent's, etc were registered with TWBEA at a young age before the grey showed. Most of the horses that come from that area are resistered as weanlings to be sold at the Celebration sale in the fall. Not to mention people from that area half the time have no clue and still use terms like "Carmella" and other similar color inaccuracies.

    I think I'll just have her tested and find out for sure. It's all out of curiosity, I don't intend to breed her or anything.
         

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