Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind
Wow, you are one of those always and never people, hu?
Maybe you are not aware but there is a HUGE cavernous difference between having a discussion with people about something and doing gene research.
Pointing out that there is nothing scientific about this conversation does not mean this conversation can not exist.
But if you like drama and flying off the deep end because someone does not agree with you, so be it.
No, it wasn't your post. Sorry about that. It's been a concerted refusal to consider that there could be a cause for iridescence in horses (possibly totally unlinked to Akhal Teke) other than good health. I have shiny horses, and I have horses with metallic sheen - they are not the same. So it's like - the position here seems to be that if a horse is not as iridescent as an Akhal Teke, it should it can't be counted as being iridescent or metallic AT ALL.
What I'm saying is that nobody finds anything in a lab unless serious breeders come to a consensus and agree that there is something to be found. They do that by comparing notes, and gathering each other's experiences. It's PART of the research process - it's not separate from "research". What do you'all think research is? What are you going to put under the microscope if you don't do any trials - and how will you do trials if you don't know what you are going to try and isolate?
Actual geneticists and authors on the subject are so open minded when you talk to them - eager to consider possibilities - but when you bring those ideas to the average horse owner, it's like a brick wall. People don't want to learn - they just want to tell you what they think they already know.
So ... yes, I'm frustrated. Look, sorry if I took it out on you a bit ... I think I'm just wasting time here, I'm afraid. I was eager for people to tell me about their horses, and their colors, and see their pictures ... but who will want to post those when they just get shot down and dismissed? I'll probably just go back to the scientific sites. 30 years' color breeding experience and extensive involvement with other genetic researchers doesn't seem to count for much here.