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satin gene discussion again....

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View Poll Results: Do you think there a gene (satin or otherwise) that causes a metallic sheen on horses
Yes 16 32.65%
No 13 26.53%
Maybe/Not sure (I'm waiting on more research to be done) 20 40.82%
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    09-19-2011, 08:54 AM
My bay is iridescent and I have met a buckskin QH stallion that was SO iridescent it wasn't even funny. The stallion was iridescent even in the shade. Monty isn't, so I consider him to be "just a bay".

I think it could well exist, and from my experience, not only in akhal-tekes. But it's not present in my horses. My foal, I don't know, she's still fluffy and not shiny at all yet, but what's shed out, though shiny and somewhat iridescent in the sun, is nothing on that stallion I met. He was gorgeous.
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    10-31-2011, 01:38 PM
Thumbs up Satin Rabbits

Originally Posted by anshorsenut88    
Haha... dang ... sorry that 1st rabbit pic makes me think of "Poof!!" LOL. I think of that lil girl in "DESPICABLE ME" movie. :-D "Its sooo fluffy!!!"

...very cute.... ok back on topic lol...

Thanks everyone for the comments.
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I think the rabbit post WAS on topic: since the Satin Gene is documented to cause iridescence (for lack of a better word) in rabbits, then there is already a known genetic mechanism for causing this. It is quite usual that once a particular gene is isolated in one species, it can help make it easier to identify it in another species. Good post, Rabbit person!
    10-31-2011, 01:59 PM
My haflinger mare gets super metallic shiney, it's somewhat even there in the winter when she has her long woolies. The hair shaft looks like it has new copper penny, reds and golds in it.
The neat thing...I don't think it is just healthy coat and nutrition--she was like this when she was given to me--slightly underweight, wormy and a nasty haircoat. I always likened it to my red satin mice..LOL.
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    10-31-2011, 04:58 PM
There does seem to be some amount of "satin" effect on certain well kept horses - sometimes even to the point of some iridescence in the sunlight - but then there are some horses that just scream red or gold iridescent ridiculous shimmer. There are so many possible things that could cause this - it could be "satin" or it could be a combination of other things that cause the reflective hollow hair shafts when combined. I don't know what it is - but I know it exists, so if it's there, SOMETHING must be causing it. I would just like to find out WHAT, so I can breed it predictably. If it's recessive (as satin is in rabbits) it should be dead easy to breed. Limited only by one's ability to get two of them together...
    11-01-2011, 05:18 AM
Green Broke
Lilacs girl, colour is the crappiest reason ever to breed horses. You've just gone down in my estimation of you.
    11-01-2011, 04:54 PM
I just think we should genetically engineer fluorescent horses. They've done other animals, so why not?

    11-01-2011, 05:01 PM
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I'm all for it!!

Just use some jellyfish DNA, like they do in "glofish" and a glow in flourescent light horse. Way cool! I want one.
Imagine, if you will...
A glohorse jumping a GP jump course (that also glows) with the lights of the indoor off and all flourescent lighting!
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    11-01-2011, 05:55 PM
Sure, why not? I mean, they're already putting tail extensions on them at shows ... how 'bout dying their manes and tails platinum blonde ... and putting a sparkler ... oh ... Maybe that's a step too far ... !!

Lol - no, cool post. I'm just running with it for laughs.
No offense intended :)
    11-02-2011, 04:57 AM
Green Broke
Lilacs girl, tail extensions are the least of what goes onto a horse in the show ring. False plaits, false manes, masses of makeup. It is routine to die tails black if they have any white hairs or if they are fading in the sun. Dyeing of dark markings on horses legs is also quite common and it is amazing how many horses seem to gain a white star before they go in the ring.
Heck I know a section A who has the most unusual colouring in the ring, however he is a bog standard white grey at all other times.
    11-02-2011, 07:20 AM
I am neutral, I just have a question. I know the akhal teke has a metallic coat, and I am sure someone has crossed them to other horses... Has that metallic color ever gone with the half akhal teke foal?
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