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post #21 of 42 Old 11-29-2012, 03:47 AM
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he is a tobiano, not a solid or he would be a base color (black, bay, chestnut). He has paint tips on his ears & blues in the eyes. Leading to believe he is suppose to be a medicine hat.
Legends with our Indian Nations as the Medicine Mans horse.
Warrior fits his name very well being he is a Mustang.

Its all DNA and tobiano is a fun pattern ranging from splashy to barley. All patterns of white are created by genes that block the horse's normal color. Pinto genes block the base color from expressing itself, leaving the hair white.
Tobiano patterns can hide in the DNA or layer over another paint pattern.
From patches, paw prints, spots and of course medicine hats, near whites and more, its all in the breeding.. One foal being full splash to its full sibling just having a chest & flank spot with blue eyes to a solid next round.
It could also determine the parents being homozygous or heterozygous for the tobiano gen, from another paint pattern or a solid.

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post #22 of 42 Old 11-29-2012, 03:51 AM
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he is a tobiano, not a solid or he would be a base color (black, bay, chestnut). He has paint tips on his ears & blues in the eyes. Leading to believe he is suppose to be a medicine hat.
Legends with our Indian Nations as the Medicine Mans horse.
Warrior fits his name very well being he is a Mustang.

Its all DNA and tobiano is a fun pattern ranging from splashy to barley. All patterns of white are created by genes that block the horse's normal color. Pinto genes block the base color from expressing itself, leaving the hair white.
Tobiano patterns can hide in the DNA or layer over another paint pattern.
From patches, paw prints, spots and of course medicine hats, near whites and more, its all in the breeding.. One foal being full splash to its full sibling just having a chest & flank spot with blue eyes to a solid next round.
It could also determine the parents being homozygous or heterozygous for the tobiano gen, from another paint pattern or a solid.
Him carrying pinto patterning genes (which no one has denied, for what it's worth) does not explain why the hair over dark skin is not coloured.

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post #23 of 42 Old 11-29-2012, 10:06 AM
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I am leaning towards the horse being a grey. Do you have any pictures of him after a bath?
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post #24 of 42 Old 11-29-2012, 07:32 PM Thread Starter
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Not here, I'll have to rummage around the stable to see if we can find any.

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post #25 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 01:39 AM
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The dark in his ear sounds like my max sabino pepper so this is probably your horse as well. He has some red ticking in his coat but mostly he is all white except the inside of his ears it is red. He was born with a Medicine Hat and had a red mane and tail but as he aged most of his red disappeared. The black mottling on your horses skin is probably where colored hair are/were. Pepper also has this. His skin is pink everywhere except on his rump, shoulders, neck, ears and of course the eyeliner. Because people can see the black mottled pigment through his white fur especially when he sweats he is often mistaken for an appy, but he is all paint . Also people often think he is a gray but he can't be gray neither parent is gray. Momma is a black and white paint daddy is a sorrel sabino Overo paint.





Red in ears


Mottled skin on his rump

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post #26 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 06:09 AM
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I know what you mean Lex. I have a 'grey and white paint'. That's what he was sold to me as. His muzzle is pink and under his lip is gray. His blaze is white and the skin under it is pink. But, the rest of his skin on his body is gray. Besides his face.

Is this what you mean?
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post #27 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 01:22 PM Thread Starter
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It's like that, but the skin on his body is not the same color.
It's in big patches, not mottled or spotty.
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post #28 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 02:04 PM
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If that horse is not a grey pinto gone white then I'm with Peppy Barrel racer on this I think that horse is more a max sabino,like her boy. I've seen quite a few horses marked similiar{they came from sabino lines}.The ears seem to be last place they like to hold on to their base color& then is not unusual to see pigmented spots in skin,primarily usually seen on chest & butt regions.
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post #29 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 02:07 PM
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It's like that, but the skin on his body is not the same color.
It's in big patches, not mottled or spotty.
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So he's white with grey skin? Not quite sure what you mean lol. Cause my guy has pink skin in some places and grey skin in others but he's all white.
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post #30 of 42 Old 11-30-2012, 02:10 PM
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So the grey skin is solid? No mottling? Then might have to go back to paint gone grey. Wish I knew what he looke like as a young horse. Or maybe he is a max sabino who is also grey lol.

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