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post #21 of 28 Old 12-08-2011, 05:44 AM
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Nope. Mumma is a bay based buckskin IMO. Brown is thought to be recessive to bay, so can "hide" in bay horses. I am still fairly certain that your girl is brown based, mostly because of the difference in colour from her flank to her neck in those older shots.

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post #22 of 28 Old 12-08-2011, 05:52 AM Thread Starter
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Nope. Mumma is a bay based buckskin IMO. Brown is thought to be recessive to bay, so can "hide" in bay horses. I am still fairly certain that your girl is brown based, mostly because of the difference in colour from her flank to her neck in those older shots.
Well she's actually the exact same hue as her Dam right through summer – I will ask the breeder if she has photos of her Dam over winter & see what turns up – didn’t think to ask before now…whoops, she just gets darker hairs in winter on top of the beige.

I hear what you are saying though with regards to sooty/ countershaded horses possibly being Seal Browns, will do some more research before forming an opinion on that tho
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Hmmm no pics of Dam over winter as "she looks hideous over winter". Owner did say she goes a couple of shades darker but not like Cynder does.....so yep looks like she's Seal Brown & Creme - test will tell for sure :)


Now back to Frame .....Who tests for Frame? Or is it just the test for LWO that's used? Because it's my understanding that being Frame doesnt guarantee the horse will also carry LW????
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Frame is OWLs/LWO. You can't have one without having the other. Frame is just another name for it as it describes the pattern that is typically put on the horse.
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Frame is OWLs/LWO. You can't have one without having the other. Frame is just another name for it as it describes the pattern that is typically put on the horse.
Ok so I'm confused, because some Frame horses have tested Neg LWO or are these just Look-a-like Frames who are actually Splash or Sabino???

It sucks there's no Splash test yet - I know her breeder wont be convinced Cyn is anything other than Tobiano if the test comes back neg Frame/LWO (she has a friend who has her convinced any coloured horse can have blue eyes if they are Tobiano)- I suppose only time will tell if that's the case, since I havent found any studies disproving it, but it will be a loooong wait as all the Gypsy Cobs over here are either homozygous Black TT or Tt (I want to add bone & substance to her offspring without getting too tall, so that only leaves Gypsy Cobs to bred from with 10 & 1/2+ inches of bone, if I want to stay under 15.3hh).
Im hoping Cynder will be Tt

Will post results of her tests when they come in - weather is BAD here atm so will have to wait for it to clear up for collection of her hairs, to be sent off.

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... I just fell in love.


I can't help you, I'm clueless, but she's beautiful and so are her parents.
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... I just fell in love.


I can't help you, I'm clueless, but she's beautiful and so are her parents.
Thanks she is a cutie. She's the 1st light boned horse I've had in many years, so she looks tiny next to my med weight hunter (who I consider rather light boned lol )
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If a horse is obviously frame and tested negative for it I would want a retest if it were my horse.
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