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post #11 of 25 Old 08-02-2012, 10:03 PM
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I see tobiano, splash and sabino. This, very much like the vast majority of Gypsies carry. We don't have overo in the breed.

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I see tobiano, splash and sabino. This, very much like the vast majority of Gypsies carry. We don't have overo in the breed.

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I don't see any sabino in her(I'm finding this word is completely over and wrongly used due to it's popularity) - roaning I would contribute to Rabicano - but she must have a splash that isn't tested yet.
I have lots of Arabians expressing a gene that hasn't been found yet.

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I wasn't even considering any roaning. I know the difference between roaning we see on some horses and a true roan. I was though, thinking of the ragged edges, which to me probably indicates some kind of sabino. Do I see a chin spot? Can't quite tell.

So to me anyway, I still think the mare shown, is tobiano, splash and sabino. The last two of types undefined yet or not available to us for testing.

In Gypsies, I think we have probably, many types of Sabino. Some have tested pos. For sb1. Others look like sb1 but quite well might be DW. I've only seen one, maybe two Gypsies, who were sb1 homozygous and they were white.

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Rabicano only causes roaning on the flank and barrel, the majority of which is completely white on this horse, so I don't think rabicano at all based on what is visible.
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I agree Poseidon. I do think there was a bit of a fight here, between sabino and splash. Sabino likes to cover the eyes with colour and splash doesn't, but drops colour off higher up on the face. Both seem to have had a bit of a win here.

Apart from sb1, I do know that several other types of sabino have been isolated and identified. However, they are not available to the public. Maybe one day.

And yes to the OP. We had a mis-identified colour result. We knew exactly what colours the stallion was, yet it came back as something we knew to be untrue. At our insistence, he company did redo it for us and it came back correctly.

I'm still not sure about blue eyes and sabino. I do know that hundreds - maybe thousands of Gypsies, who have one or two blue eyes and obviously or probably carry sabino. The same in Mini Horses.

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I'm still not sure about blue eyes and sabino. I do know that hundreds - maybe thousands of Gypsies, who have one or two blue eyes and obviously or probably carry sabino. The same in Mini Horses.
And until they isolate EVERY type of splash, there is no way to know that those same horses don't have splash. We have proof already that splash can be present without white, as there is a few homozygous horses popping up that have completely solid parents (Gotlands IIRC).

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And until they isolate EVERY type of splash, there is no way to know that those same horses don't have splash. We have proof already that splash can be present without white, as there is a few homozygous horses popping up that have completely solid parents (Gotlands IIRC).
Absolutely Chiilaa. I'm quite sure that the vast majority of Gypsies, also are splash of one type or another.

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I don't think we will EVER get to the bottom of horse genetics LOL

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Oh WS, I do hope you are wrong. Maybe not everything will be known in my lifetime, but for young equine enthusiasts coming up, I can hardly imagine what will be known to them. I remember when we knew nothing of LWO, equine/canine DNA testing etc.etc. It really has been an exciting ride.

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