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    05-06-2013, 10:30 AM
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Foal
Still think she's bay?

We are halfway through shedding, still a lot to come off yet, but none the less... I've noticed her muzzle and a bit around her eyes is a distinctly lighter shade that the rest of her summer coat that's showing... Do you still think she's bay or does she look brown now?

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    05-06-2013, 10:57 AM
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Green Broke
Must wait until she's entirely shed out. My friend has an Arab gelding who's identical in color and he's a bay although his face always appears a bit darker at the points
     
    05-06-2013, 12:25 PM
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Foal
Some bays have what's called "mealy" shading on their muzzles and it looks like that's what your girl has.
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    05-06-2013, 01:52 PM
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Trained
I'll wait until she sheds more, but it looks a bit more like pangare than brown at the moment.
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    05-06-2013, 01:55 PM
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Yearling
It would be tough to say for sure until she sheds out, but I would hazard a guess that she is bay with pangare. Someone can definitely correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the lighter points on a brown have more of a "cinnamon" look to them like my mare below. I'll leave it up to someone a little better versed in colour to confirm, but that is my guess.

     
    05-06-2013, 02:00 PM
  #6
Trained
Brown tends to cause "warmer" tones on the lighter areas and, yes, a more cinnamon type tone. Pangare is usually "colder" and closer to white. Peppy Barrel Racing has a bay colt with pangare that looks distinctly different than a brown.
     
    05-06-2013, 02:31 PM
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    05-06-2013, 02:35 PM
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^^^^ I saw my name and guess we need a pangre example . I actually have come to the conclusion the Jet is brown and pangre what do you think Poseidon. But you can see here the mousey grey of pangre.



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    05-08-2013, 12:01 AM
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Foal
I guess I will wait and see what transpires after she's completely shed out. It definitely isn't white/cold, but its not cinnamon either, more in between. How long does it take for the foal pangare to disappear if in fact that's what she's showing? She's a yearling. I don't think either of her parents has pangare, Arabs don't carry it, welsh do, however, her dam did not carry it that I'm aware of, and neither did her sire. Can it skip a generation, I'm not that familiar with it?

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    05-08-2013, 12:02 AM
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I guess I will wait and see what transpires after she's completely shed out. It definitely isn't white/cold, but its not cinnamon either, more in between. How long does it take for the foal pangare to disappear if in fact that's what she's showing? She's a yearling. I don't think either of her parents has pangare, Arabs don't carry it, welsh do, however, her dam did not carry it that I'm aware of, and neither did her sire. Can it skip a generation, I'm not that familiar with it?

Dam
Neither of Jet's parents have pangre.
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