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post #21 of 28 Old 05-16-2013, 04:26 PM
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So I was right? Is there a bit of a disagreement here?

IMO, (not an expert) with bay, browns, etc. the color doesnt change too much UNLESS it has some other modifier (not sure if I 'm using the word right), like roaning, greying, or what not.... That is what I mean earlier. I mean my solid gelding has changed color, but not by much and it's only probably noticeable to me. My mare is a paint, she is the same colors, but she has more and more roaning every year.

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post #22 of 28 Old 05-16-2013, 04:54 PM
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Wheatermay can you post a thread of your paint "roaning"? I'm asking because true roan isn't progressive and I'm curious to see your mare.
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Wheatermay can you post a thread of your paint "roaning"? I'm asking because true roan isn't progressive and I'm curious to see your mare.
Like I said I suck at the actual words, lol. I'm learning from the experts, but I still suck! I think the "roaning" I'm talking about on my mare is actually rabicano trait. But her vet just calls it roaning (no one is using the term correctly, and we know it, but it's easier, lol...) I think I have posted a picture before of her on a thread, but it's been awhile ago. I could do it again for the fun of it again! Actually my "bay" Chillaa think sis actually a light brown that mimics a bay. I still call him bay. LOL.... Let me see what pics I have to show of them and I'll post something...

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Like I said I suck at the actual words, lol. I'm learning from the experts, but I still suck! I think the "roaning" I'm talking about on my mare is actually rabicano trait. But her vet just calls it roaning (no one is using the term correctly, and we know it, but it's easier, lol...) I think I have posted a picture before of her on a thread, but it's been awhile ago. I could do it again for the fun of it again! Actually my "bay" Chillaa think sis actually a light brown that mimics a bay. I still call him bay. LOL.... Let me see what pics I have to show of them and I'll post something...
Ok I was looking through the pics I have and I have no pictures AFTER the spring shed. She just finishing it up. And I can tell you it's ALOT ALOT more than it was last year, AND TONS more "roaning or ticking" since the last pics. But I have those pics and I'll take pics tomorrow and you can see how much it's progressed. So that will be great!

My gelding has white ticking but and he gets a little more every year (it's in his barrel), but it's not anywhere near what my mare has (they have the same sire, that's why I mention). I'll take a picture of that too. I'll put them both on the same thread bc his color is fun! LOL! He's a brown, but looks like a copper bay. Hard to tell with him! So I'll post that stuff tomorrow evening for some fun! :) I don't hate showing off my babies!

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To me any horse with a black mane and tail. With a dark brown body is a bay. Im kind of confused as to what a brown horse is? I thought they were dark chestnut.
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post #27 of 28 Old 06-20-2013, 10:47 AM
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A Balck horse that carries at least one copy of the agouti gene is a bay. The agouti gene has 3 different variants. One produces true bay which is black with the body color modified to a shade of red or even what you may think of as brown that has little variation across the body (unless they have pangere or smutty). Another further restricts the black and red is carried down the legs to the ankles with little variation across the coat and is called wild bay. The third variant is what they call brown It is a black horse with the same restriction but there are specific spots that are lighter than the body color. The body may appear more red or brown but will also have the lighter areas. These are at the flank, under the forearm and under the eye. It can be confused with pangere or be caused by sweating so genetic testing is what tells you which applies. I'll add that a smokey black horse which is black with a cream gene and no agouti modifier also has a lighter body when faded and occasionally gets mixed in to add to the confusion. Knowing the color of the parents helps to know what is possible and again genetic testing tells you for sure what is going on.
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post #28 of 28 Old 06-20-2013, 12:03 PM
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To me any horse with a black mane and tail. With a dark brown body is a bay. Im kind of confused as to what a brown horse is? I thought they were dark chestnut.
What QtrBel said. Brown is a form of Bay and they are very similar, both to look at and genetically. I believe it is a modifier tagged onto the agouti gene that creates almost identical colouring to your typical bay, but with the orangey coloured hair on the muzzle, flanks, etc. The mare in my avatar and profile album is a brown and tbh, I didn't know what brown was either until I came on here.
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