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  • Double reg paint mare

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    09-20-2012, 11:10 PM
  #1
Foal
Stumped on Paint Horse

Okay, so this may seem dumb to ask, but I just can't seem to find the right information online. At least not that I can understand.

I recently purchased what I was told was a solid Overo Paint gelding... On the APHA website they have a mark chart- and I am not sure how he is Overo when he is solid? The only way you can even tell he is a Paint is because of his face.

Flirtin With Midnight Paint

His parents are Paints, but everyone else is AQHA- which is another thing, if both of his parents are double registered AQHA/APHA could he qualify for double registration? How would I go about knowing if they are double registered or not?


(don't judge his scars/skinny- wasn't at the best home, but he is now).

Soooo, can anyone enlighten me a bit? Maybe let me know more about markings/coloring regarding Paint horses.
     
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    09-20-2012, 11:38 PM
  #2
Foal
Also, to add to my confusion- on his registration papers he is listed as a Black Overo- thought other than a little spot on the side of his mouth, has "paint" markings on his body.
     
    09-20-2012, 11:39 PM
  #3
CCH
Weanling
Your horse is not "solid" he has regular registry APHA papers. From the photo available on APHA Plus, I would say that his face white was far enough outside the reference points to get him full papers.

As far as AQHA registration, he probably is eligible, **BUT** both parents need to be registered and DNA typed before they will take his application and that is no guarantee he will get AQHA papers. The whole process is kind of expensive and more than a huge pain in the butt. Since he isn't able to reproduce, unless you plan to show AQHA, I would skip it :(
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    09-20-2012, 11:41 PM
  #4
CCH
Weanling
If you wanted to learn more about his color, you can look up splash overo. I'm quite certain that is the type of paint allele your horse has.
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    09-21-2012, 02:33 PM
  #5
Foal
After looking into it more and contacting the owners of his parents, both his parents are double registered AQHA/APHA. He was sold to me as a "solid" Paint though his papers say otherwise. Even though he has no flashy paint markings, if he is registered as a black overo gelding is he eligible to show in regular classes with APHA? I know SBP have their own classes. Thanks again. And as far as the AQHA reg. It seems like a lot of money and work to get him into AQHA- not worth my time.
     
    09-21-2012, 03:19 PM
  #6
Trained
I would think that they can't deny you from showing regular APHA classes if you provide his papers as proof that he is registered with regular papers.
     
    09-21-2012, 05:14 PM
  #7
Weanling
I have been told that overos usually have face markings outside of a regular blaze, stripe, snip, whatever, and tobianos are more likely to have 'regular' horse markings on their face. I didn't know that just that could qualify them as a paint and not solid. Anyone know what that means? Lol. Sorry, that's not very helpful.
     
    09-21-2012, 05:52 PM
  #8
Trained
Whoever told you that was wrong, Tessa.

Tobiano does not cause any face white. Any tobiano with white on its face has something else going on. Any horse with any white on its face has a white pattern, it just hasn't been isolated and identified yet. Frame, splash, and sabino (the "overo" genes) all cause white on the face separately.

The way that gelding's white aprons over his face would qualify him for normal papers. My mare (avatar picture) is genetically a buckskin frame, but registered solid. Her blaze is her only marking and would be considered a "normal" face marking.
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    09-21-2012, 05:58 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Im definitely Paint Dumb...but I know my friend had a "solid" gelding with 2 paint parents...they were eventualyl able to get him regular paint papers because his face got more and more white and his legs got white hgih enough to qualify? I have no idea what they were talking about...im QH all the way haha. But maybe he has enough white on his face to qualify him for a paint and not solid...idk
     
    09-22-2012, 01:04 AM
  #10
Foal
After talking with the original breeder this guy is also eligible to be double registered AQHA since both his parents are double registered and out of AQH parents. The whole genetics and colorings confuse me.
     

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