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    06-06-2013, 05:18 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Peppy Barrel Racing    
You crack me up silly girl. How many times have you been told she's black. She's just sun faded. Accept it! The faded areas look splotchy and just don't have something right about them is it the same on both sides?
How's training going by the way?
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Lol, I know, but so many people tell me so many different things! And actually, those spots are from sweat... I was told that sweat causes fading too, am I right? And if she was brown, wouldn't she have a brown nose, and around the eyes?

Her training is going great! I moved her to a new place where I work and I have put the saddle and bridle on her. She accepts the bit really well, no fight, and no buck or even a flinch with the saddle. She is not pushy anymore, and has great ground manners. Overall, her training is better then its ever been!

Also, her mother was a chestnut and father was a black, making the only possibilities chestnut, bay or black. She doesn't look bay or chestnut to me, so the only choice that is left is black.

My boss thinks she will turn into a brown horse over the years though, could that happen? When she shedded her winter coat, she had no brown whatsoever, then she started to sweat because of heat, and then those brown spots showed up.
     
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    06-06-2013, 05:20 PM
  #12
Yearling
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Originally Posted by calicokatt    
Breeze looks brown to me! Think about your hair... if it fades from the sun, where does it fade? In the spots where the sun hits the most, right? On a horse, that would be the topline, not the flank and girth area. Those spots aren't faded, they're just naturally that color, making your horse brown, not black. :)
These spots are from sweat though, sorry, I forgot to mention that in my original post. She also has a spot behind her ears, but her face is completely black.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:27 PM
  #13
Yearling
This is just her face, but it is all black:


And here is the other side, it isn't that great, but I don't have any others of her right now without her wearing the saddle. I will get some tomorrow though.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:40 PM
  #14
Yearling
Hmm... I don't know. Her face makes her look black. The light spots make her look brown. Typically sun bleaching occurs in the spots most often hit by the sun - in Clem's case, it's her face, back, sides. The spots that your horse has is in the typical 'brown horse' areas. There's no reason THOSE spots would be sun faded so badly while the rest of her is black.

I have no idea, is what I'm getting at! But if I had to guess, I'd say brown as well.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:42 PM
  #15
Trained
Yes sweat can cause bleaching of the hair.

All her winter pictures show a black horse.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:43 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Shoebox    
Hmm... I don't know. Her face makes her look black. The light spots make her look brown. Typically sun bleaching occurs in the spots most often hit by the sun - in Clem's case, it's her face, back, sides. The spots that your horse has is in the typical 'brown horse' areas. There's no reason THOSE spots would be sun faded so badly while the rest of her is black.

I have no idea, is what I'm getting at! But if I had to guess, I'd say brown as well.
I think I am wanting to get her tested, just so I know for sure... but the spots behind her ears, in her girth and flank area, those are all from sweating. They weren't there before she sweat a lot a couple weeks ago.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:45 PM
  #17
Yearling
You'll have to let us know the result of the tests, then! I'm curious to hear.
     
    06-06-2013, 05:46 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Yes sweat can cause bleaching of the hair.

All her winter pictures show a black horse.
Thanks, okay... well I am wanting to get her tested anyways... so what tests should I do?

Here is the link of the one I am thinking of getting:
Agouti (Bay/Black) - Horse Coat Color DNATesting

Would it let me know if she is black?

There is also this one:
Red Factor (Chestnut) - Horse Coat Color Genetic Testing

What would you say would be the best one? Should I do both?
     
    06-06-2013, 05:51 PM
  #19
Started
Your horse is seal brown not turning from black into brown Many seal brown horses can look black & have had the color mis-registered. The body can look black but they will have those Light areas predominantly in flank,girth & muzzle.
Get her tested for brown if you wan't to know for sure.

Starting Point
Seal Bay or Brown Horse Coat Color Modifier | The Equinest
http://www.diomics.com/DIOMICS/PetDN...ournal0410.pdf
     
    06-06-2013, 05:54 PM
  #20
Started
Your horse is seal brown not turning from black into brown Many seal brown horses can look black & have had the color mis-registered. The body can look black but they will have those Light areas predominantly in flank,girth & muzzle.
Get her tested for brown if you wan't to know for sure.

Starting Point
Seal Bay or Brown Horse Coat Color Modifier | The Equinest
http://www.diomics.com/DIOMICS/PetDN...ournal0410.pdf

PetDNA services has test for seal brown Equine DNA Testing Lab | Pet DNA Services AZ

Oops sorry for double post just had wanted to add last link
     

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