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post #21 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 04:57 PM
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*sigh*

This is a brown horse...look at the belly, flanks, buttocks, around the eyes, muzzle, girth area. Etc.


OP, your filly is black.
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post #22 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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I read the 'starting Point' link you posted, the black horse description seems to fit Breeze, before she sweat a lot on the first really hot day this spring, she was black all over, not one brown spot.

I guess we will know for sure in a few weeks!
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post #23 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 05:23 PM
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I would just test for agouti unless you want to know whether she's homozygous EE or heterozygous Ee on the extension/red allele.

The cheapest route would be the 'regular' agouti test either from Animal Genetics which you linked to or through UC Davis (that's where I tested my horse). Either one is $25. Their tests don't distinguish between classic bay (A) and seal bay (At) but you can make an educated guess from her visual appearance that if she's not black (aa) then any A's that show up are actually At's.

The most "complete" test would be PetDNA's "Comprehensive Agouti = ‘a’ plus ‘At’ combined" but it'll cost you $60.
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post #24 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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I have the forms from the Animal Genetics site for agouti, and will probably send in a sample tomorrow. Do you know how long it takes for the results to come back? Is Animal Genetics a good site?

And from all the information given, will it tell me if she is a true black straight out? This is the first time I have ever tested an animal for anything...
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post #25 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 06:34 PM
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Yes if you just test her for agouti it will tell you if she is just black or not. Animal genetics is really good and fairly quick.
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post #26 of 67 Old 06-06-2013, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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Okay thanks! I will share her true colour with all of you when the results get in!!!
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post #27 of 67 Old 06-07-2013, 12:08 AM
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She's just black but color testing is always fun so go for it! And an answer to your previous question the fading is from sweat
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post #28 of 67 Old 06-07-2013, 01:10 AM
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Just wanted to say that not all brown horses follow the guidelines. There are many browns that are so dark that only testing reveals that fact they they are in fact brown and not black.
Gatsby is a good example:
http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/...rm/Gatsby2.jpg
http://www.allstallionsdirectory.com...0005truslg.jpg
Without better pictures of your filly it's too hard to say, although remembering older pictures of her, she seemed most definitely black.

There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers
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post #29 of 67 Old 06-07-2013, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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I just sent in the sample! I don't care if she is a true black or not, I will still love her.

I do however have a question. Aa means she is a true black, but what does Aa and AA mean? Does Aa mean she has a black factor, but is a bay, and AA means she is just a brown horse? This is what is confusing to me!
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post #30 of 67 Old 06-07-2013, 05:10 PM
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Ee and EE are for black. (ee) is for red. Aa and AA are agouti. Aa is no agouti.
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