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  • Bay horse red streaked tail bleaching out
  • Horse genetics and gene associated with Sun bleaching

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    08-02-2012, 05:56 PM
Green Broke
Sun bleaching in black it genetic?

My buckskin mare always gets super sun bleached orange fried streaks in her tail. But another horse in the barn who is a bay has a jet black tail that never bleaches out even though they both get the same amount of turnout every day in the sun!

I always thought that buckskin was just a bay with the cream gene so why would my horse's tail bleach so much more? Could the fact that my mare's sire is a chestnut have anything to do with it? Just curious and looking to learn something new I guess!
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    08-02-2012, 06:53 PM
Do you use a lot of fly spray on her? That bleaches a lot.

It might be some affect of cream because my mare's tail is bright orange at the end and is much ligher black on everything that exposed to the sun (down underneath, it's a really dark blue-black).

That was from a couple months ago, so her tail has gotten worse. No worries for me, because we don't have to look presentable for anything. However, I know you show, so you could dye it if you wanted.
    08-02-2012, 10:56 PM
Green Broke
Oh I have dyed it twice this summer already

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    08-03-2012, 07:45 AM
"My" buckskin (now my mother's) has about 5 different colours in her tail! Black, of course, but also white, gold, red and cream. I was advised not to dye her tail, because all the different colours in it are supposedly sought-after... I guess because you can't put a false tail in and have it look natural? Hers is REALLY thick and because of all the different colours nobody can question that it's natural.

Sunbleaching, on the other hand, I haven't really experienced all that much. My bay's mane bleaches a bit, but not his tail so much. And my chestnut's mane/tail are really cool, she's got some sort of sooty/flaxen combination going on where she's got everything from nearly white to nearly black in her mane... and her tail is nearly black in the middle, but bright red chestnut at the top and bottom.
    08-03-2012, 08:01 AM
My bay's forelock bleaches at the ends, but none of the rest of his mane does - it's really weird. However, his forelock is a bit drier, frizzier and generally not as god quality hair as the rest of his mane... that could be why I guess.
    08-03-2012, 08:47 AM
Green Broke
Yeah, well THIS is what my mare's poor black tail looks like mid-summer! In winter, it looks like the bay's BLACK tail that is standing next to her...

When I dyed it, THIS is what it looked like Doesn't last long though!
    08-03-2012, 08:49 AM
Could try a tailbag or tail saver? Tail savers are strips of fabric that you braid into the horse's tail to keep it clean and tangle-free, and to keep the sun off. Tail bags aren't as effective but they go from the very top of the tail down, whereas a tail saver has to be put on below the dock or else it runs the risk of cutting off the circulation, especially if they get it caught.
    08-03-2012, 08:58 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
Could try a tailbag or tail saver? Tail savers are strips of fabric that you braid into the horse's tail to keep it clean and tangle-free, and to keep the sun off. Tail bags aren't as effective but they go from the very top of the tail down, whereas a tail saver has to be put on below the dock or else it runs the risk of cutting off the circulation, especially if they get it caught.
Yeah I have tried doing those strips of material, it looked super cool BUT then the hair above the bottom of the dock that hadn't been braided in became a giant ball of tangled matted MESS after a couple of days of her swishing at the flies So that was a no-go. I have a long tail bag that can be velcroed through the top of the braid so that she still has a long tail-like item to swat at flies with, but it doesn't cover the top part where most of the sun bleaching occurs.

Are there long tail bags that tie somehow into the very top of the tail? I want her to still have something to swat flies with, since she does get turned out all day...and I would rather deal with an orange tail and give her turnout all day versus keeping her penned up for the sake of beauty...because above all, she works hard for me and needs her "horsey time"!
    08-03-2012, 09:01 AM
Green Broke
Here was the cool looking tail saver I did once

    08-03-2012, 09:11 AM
Does she wear a rug? You can get tail bags that velcro into the rug. Usually cotton ones, for use with cotton rugs, but I use a cotton underneath my winter rugs so it doesn't really matter... you can also get canvas ones, but I haven't found a waterproof rug yet that came with the velcro attachment already on it.

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