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        03-07-2013, 11:08 AM
    She's way to dark to be Ivory. IMO she's just really loud donkey spotting on a black, and or brown, dun.
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        03-07-2013, 11:51 AM
    Is splash in donkeys? That could be causing the blue eyes?
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        03-07-2013, 08:47 PM
    As far as I know, at this point ADMS does not reconise difference in pattern, they only list as spotted. They do accept albino & Ivory, again, as far as I know
        03-07-2013, 08:50 PM
    Granted, I know nothing about donkey genetics beyond the fact that some are spotted and other's aren't...and they generally have the primal markings.

    My best guess, though, is that it's likely a prominent expression of whatever pinto gene they've got going there. I would also guess that base coat is the slate gray that momma is.
        03-08-2013, 10:51 PM
    She was just be spotted. My guess her base color is gray dun. She's loud! I love her! I had a spotted jack, he gave me a mule foal with about that much white.
        03-08-2013, 11:22 PM
    Ivory is a recessive gene and is characterized by a near white or cream base coat with pink skin and blue eyes. Mottled or speckled skin around eyes,nose and genitals can be seen in Ivory donkeys. The color of the animal is dependent on the base coat meaning that a red based ivory will generally be lighter than a black based. If the donkey has the dun gene as well as ivory then it will appear to be even lighter in color, with the dorsal stripe visible. The ivory gene is rare, and breeders are constantly trying to improve the gene pool to reduce the amount of inbred ivories.

    Spotting: Spotting is a dominant gene and thought to be homozygous embryonic lethal. The spotting is typically horizontally oriented and can cross the shoulders. Color generally stays around eyes,ears,topline and generally on one or more leg.The leg markings may be broken or spotted. Blue eyes are unusual in spotted donkeys but it has occurred. Blazes and socks in donkeys are a minimal form of spotting. There have been no recorded cases of a sorrel donkey with the spotting gene.

    Hope this helps. :)
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        03-09-2013, 08:44 AM
    I do not think she is ivory. She would not have the dark areas if she was an ivory. Ivory makes the entire animal white to pale cream. It is like creamello in horses.

    IMO she is clearly a spotted with a maximum amount of white. Her base color is more difficult to tell due to degree of white, though clearly black based. I do not think her color is 'rare ', though the blue eyes do seem somewhat uncommon.

    Can we see a photo of her eyes?
        03-09-2013, 04:00 PM
    I just left there, but did not think to take a pic of her eyes
        03-13-2013, 05:08 PM
    Please get a photo of her eyes. "Blue" eyes - pinto blue - are rare in donkeys. Gray-blue foal eyes are common. She is not ivory. She is brown/gray dun appearing base, mostly white.

    Splash is subjective in donkeys, we do not have nearly enough research to be positive, but blue eyes of any type, other than with ivory, are rare in donkeys. We are talking pinto-blue eyes.

    Leah Patton, Registrar, ADMS
        03-13-2013, 06:18 PM
    No idea but I second all the cuteness!!

    I wonder if donkeys carry frame?

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