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Is there such thing as a "brown roan"?

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        05-19-2012, 09:34 AM
      #11
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    That website has a fair bit of mis-information on it. I wouldn't use it as a reference myself.
    Chiilaa - just curious (and for my own education about colour genetics) what is the misinformation on that website? I'll admit I just scanned the main text.
         
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        05-19-2012, 09:52 AM
      #12
    Trained
    First of all they completely skip brown as a base colour, which it is in its own right.

    They also use the terms blue, strawberry and red. I am a stickler, I don't like to use any term other than the one that is correct, in this case - black roan, chestnut roan and bay roan.

    They also describe strawberry roan as having no black on it (fair point if they are saying that is a chestnut base with roan) but then go on to say that the bay roan pictured is almost a strawberry roan. This is pretty much why I never use these terms - the horse can't be chestnut roan if he has a bay base, no matter how much black does or does not show.

    Another thing I didn't like is that they repeatedly say that roan doesn't show until the foal shed. Many roans are not apparent for a few years after, so they should reflect that and not state "foal shed is when roans show their roaning" as a rule and not a guide. Nit picking I know, but still not correct.

    There are several times a brown roan is referred to as blue roan, which is also not correct.
         
        05-19-2012, 09:56 AM
      #13
    Trained
    Looking further around that site, the less I like it. I could list every inaccuracy I find if you want, but it might take a while. Personally, it looks like the author made it a while ago, and has not stayed up-to-date with current research since *shrug* maybe the 70s? Well not that bad lol, but you get the idea.
         
        05-19-2012, 02:28 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    I found out just recently my 'bay' roan solid APHA reg. Gelding was actually a brown(with roan), because of the mealy muzzle, lighter underbelly, ect.

    Roan can appear on ANY color, buckskins, brown, black(blue roan), palomino(honey/palomino roan), or chestnut(red,or strawberry roan), and all the rest.
         
        05-19-2012, 04:25 PM
      #15
    Trained
    My BOs have a brown roan. She's registered as blue roan with the AQHA, but she is nowhere near black and would be the funkiest looking bay.

    Keep in mind with cream dilutes that the roan can "hide" on them due to the lightness of their coat. I know there was a palomino on another forum that tested positive for roan but there you couldn't tell just looking at him.
         
        05-19-2012, 07:34 PM
      #16
    Showing
    LOL, here's a perfect example. They have him listed as a "blue roan" when he is very clearly a brown roan.
    https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=5235
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        05-20-2012, 04:05 AM
      #17
    Started
    I thought there was only blue, red/strawberry, and bay roan?
         
        05-20-2012, 04:12 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nokotaheaven    
    i thought there was only blue, red/strawberry, and bay roan?
    Roan is a white pattern. It can appear on any base colour, from the basic black or red, through to every modifier. It can also appear with other white patterns.
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        05-20-2012, 09:21 AM
      #19
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nokotaheaven    
    i thought there was only blue, red/strawberry, and bay roan?
    Those are just terms. Don't think of roan as a "color", because it actually is not. As Chiilaa says, horse of any base color or pattern can be roan...
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        05-20-2012, 09:47 AM
      #20
    Yearling
    My first mare was a brown roan, registered a bay roan standardbred though.
         

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