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        05-20-2013, 10:29 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Tobiano questions

    Alright so the first horse Halo (her papers are attached) is said to be a dun tobiano. Do you all believe so? She has a dorsal stripe, black and white mane and a little bit of dappling on her front. She also gets very lightly colored in the winter. The second horse Jetta the black tobiano has some browning on the top. Is this any special coloring? Any input is appreciated.
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        05-20-2013, 10:32 PM
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    Yearling
    Do you have a pic of the first horse from the rear? Looks like a buckskin to me. Second horse just looks black and white.
         
        05-20-2013, 10:35 PM
      #3
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by haviris    
    Do you have a pic of the first horse from the rear? Looks like a buckskin to me. Second horse just looks black and white.
    No sorry not able to get to her right now to get a rear picture.
         
        05-20-2013, 10:53 PM
      #4
    Trained
    2nd horse is just sunburnt black, really dark brown. Can't tell anything about the first horse re: dun coloration, can't see zebra stripes on the legs, and can't see the dun line on the top to see if it really looks dun or just countershading.
         
        05-20-2013, 11:11 PM
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    Showing
    Do you know what color the dam was on that first mare? Unless the dam was dun, there is absolutely no way she can be dun. Dun doesn't skip a generation and it always shows up, so in order for her to be dun, she'd have to have at least one dun parent. The sire is ruled out as the source of the dun gene as he is listed as chestnut tobiano.

    The second horse is a faded/sunbleached black.
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        05-20-2013, 11:22 PM
      #6
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
    Do you know what color the dam was on that first mare? Unless the dam was dun, there is absolutely no way she can be dun. Dun doesn't skip a generation and it always shows up, so in order for her to be dun, she'd have to have at least one dun parent. The sire is ruled out as the source of the dun gene as he is listed as chestnut tobiano.

    The second horse is a faded/sunbleached black.
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    Unfortunately I don't know the color of the dam I have tried to find out but came up empty handed.
         
        05-20-2013, 11:22 PM
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    If she's got a dorsal stripe she's a dun-- I looked through the pedigree for a dun and found that sun mac miss' dam is a dun 'Sun maid' theres definitely dun factor in her blood..

    The black tobiano is just sun bleached.
         
        05-20-2013, 11:25 PM
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    Started
    Looks dun to me......and he looks black.

    Nancy
         
        05-21-2013, 12:17 AM
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    Started
    The first horse I wonder if she is brown based dun but I'd like to see her dorsal stripe to confirm its not countershading. The 2nd horse is black with sunfading.
         
        05-21-2013, 07:17 AM
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    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toto    
    If she's got a dorsal stripe she's a dun-- I looked through the pedigree for a dun and found that sun mac miss' dam is a dun 'Sun maid' theres definitely dun factor in her blood..

    The black tobiano is just sun bleached.
    Re the italicised. A dorsal stripe does not automatically mean the horse is dun. Countershading and grey can both cause very clear dorsal stripes with no dun present.
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