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post #1 of 26 Old 07-07-2013, 11:57 PM Thread Starter
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TOVERO and Color Calculators

I was messing around on a color calculator and tovero wasn't an option so I was wondering what I could use for a tovero? The horse is 80-90 white otherwise bay. Has two blue eyes, brown in flank, and chest shield. She has some brown in her ears and pole so is a medicine hat and has a couple black spots on her nose I believe. Also has a little black under the tail.

Should I put in Tobianos splash, tobiano frame, or overo frame?

If it helps she produced a tovero ro when bred to an overo, but with a little more bay color.
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Oh and the horse isn't test for LWO, splash, or frame.
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Well that's a pretty can of worms. Bred an untested tovero to an overo? I hope it wasn't you who did the breeding.

Until tested, put down tobiano and frame. Sure, sabino or splash are just as likely to be there, but they each have a 50% chance of passing on, and frame is deadly so use that one if in doubt, just to keep it in mind.

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Of course not. I wouldn't do that. I've got common sense. The stud the person crossed her to was I believe negative for a few things? I can't remember what though.
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It would not be surprising, to not find Tovero on a colour calculator, since it isn't a colour, but an outdated term which some use to cover tobiano and possible other colours.

You say the horse is white, bay, brown and black. Never heard of such a thing. Can you post pics here, so we can have a look? I'm tending to think the horse is probably a bay/white tobiano, much like the horse in my avatar. To use a colour calculator properly, you need to know what colour your horse is. I presume she has not been tested yet?

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No it's a bay. I was trying to explain where the color was. This horse will be tested but not sure how to put on a calculator. She's like TinRoses mare Fathom. She used to be on here, but with a slight more color.
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I don't have a picture, but TinRoses mare is the closest you get to this girl.
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That tells me nothing, unfortunately. Except for Gypsy Horses in the US, no horse of colour should be bred, without knowning the Frame status. Even with solid Paints, they can carry Frame and often do. Since you are obviously breeding, it is important that you know this. Even some obvious Tobianos, can also carry Frame.

Seems odd that you have no pictures of this mare. You should have pictures, just in case of theft. A friend of mine in the UK, had a Gypsy Horse mare who was stolen. She had no pictures and even though she knew who had stolen her, she could never prove the mare was hers. Get some pictures, asap. Doesn't matter if they are conformationally good or not. Just have to show markings.

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I don't have a picture due to the fact I haven't bought her as of yet and she's under weight by a good 100lbs. My trainer bought her from some people who couldn't give enough hay and she's extremely passive and the other horses got it. I want to start this all correctly by testing her yes. Her produce record was pretty good. The trainer used to own her I think. She's not a rescue by any means and she's gained most of it back. She's not being bred this year. I'm giving her a good home.

Also, I do believe she could be frame.
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I don't have a picture due to the fact I haven't bought her as of yet and she's under weight by a good 100lbs. My trainer bought her from some people who couldn't give enough hay and she's extremely passive and the other horses got it. I want to start this all correctly by testing her yes. Her produce record was pretty good. The trainer used to own her I think. She's not a rescue by any means and she's gained most of it back. She's not being bred this year. I'm giving her a good home.

Also, I do believe she could be frame.
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In what way? What breed is she? I presume since she's already been bred several times, she is a registered mare and most likely, someone has already had her tested. You could possibly get those records.

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