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Trying to figure out what he is?

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I bought this horse on a sale on Sat. He doesn't have any paperwork, we also don't know if the Coggins that came with him are even his. The Coggins had no age, name or any distinguishing info. One lady we spoke to said she had him for 5 years (we never even got a name from her) but that didn't match up w/ Coggins either! He is very calm and broke to ride and I love him already I'm just curious. He (Camo) is 16'1-16'2 about 1350lbs and so many different colors! I'm sure he a combo of 2 horses so we may never know what he is. Also we haven't ridden him yet but he seems to be gaited. Any help or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Someone mentioned Vitiligo on the cross post... I thought it messed with the pigment of the skin. It doesn't look like the actual pigment is turning pink to me. It looks to be dark underneath the lighter colors on him. So IMO it's not vitiligo.

Case of vitiligo.
 
#71 ·
Testing this horse could be problematic. See, if he is chimeric, that means that he is essentially two horses that have 'merged' to create one. So in theory, some of his hair will contain one set of DNA, some will contain a different set. If you sent in a sample, they could potentially only be testing half of him lol.

There are tests that can be done for chimerism, but they aren't listed and I am not sure which facilities would do it.

As far as any colour specific tests, there are currently no tests for LP, which seems to be the current fave for causing his colour. And while some vets are very knowledgeable, the vast majority generally don't know a huge amount about colour genetics.
 
#73 ·
Testing this horse could be problematic. See, if he is chimeric, that means that he is essentially two horses that have 'merged' to create one. So in theory, some of his hair will contain one set of DNA, some will contain a different set. If you sent in a sample, they could potentially only be testing half of him lol.

There are tests that can be done for chimerism, but they aren't listed and I am not sure which facilities would do it.

That is exactly what the testing place told me. In the samples I sent they couldn't confirm chimeric,but they can't rule it out....unless they tested every hair on him...lol.

You could email the lady that owns all these brindles

HORSES FOR SALE « JUSTA SPLASH OF BRINDLE HORSE FARMS

She is very helpful and know where/what tests to get :)
 
#75 ·
Now now Bubba, bite that tongue :-p I agree with you though, most of them look like exaggerated dun markings to me, and to others who I have spoken to.
 
#77 ·
Cool horse! Parts of him look roan, parts look appaloosa, parts look brindle, and some parts look like he's going grey. Maybe he's a brindle leopard appy roan that is greying out. LOL, jk. (is that even possible?) To me, the black spots are wild looking!

As far as those burrs go, we have them terrible here at our farm. Our horses run loose on our 285 acres and I have to brush those burrs out of their hair on a daily basis. My mare gets them caught in her bangs so bad she looks like a unicorn sometimes! And they are a complete pain to get out! Usually I have to pick them out by hand and then use a curry comb. Then my mare's hair looks like she stuck her hoof in a light socket... ugh...
 
#79 ·
Some Appaloosa crossed with painted will have this coloring because typically an appy has a lot thinner coat hens being able to see more coloration of the skin threw the coat and then you get your solid patches from the paint that because the skin is not mottled under the patch/ solid pigment which the hair tends to grow a little longer giving you a more of solid colored patch. Ally's are easier to see the different colored pigmentation on there skin because with the variation of pigment, also comes along with the rattail gene, their coat is not very dense, enabling you to see there beautiful pigmented skin. Did that make sense?
 
#80 ·
For all those thinking along the Pintaloosa lines. A pintaloosa does NOT have spots in their white pinto markings. The spots/appy roaning etc would ONLY be in the patches of colour.
 
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#82 ·
if you look at the later pix the black is not spots they are lines and patches. I am loving more and more every day! He is so gentle and loving and I never seen an Appy as calm as he is. Camo truly is a gentle giant. We are gonna take him for his first ride (since we have had him) tomorrow! And I can't wait for all my friends to meet him they have all been invited out for a bonfire next weekend... I get laughed at cause it really is like we have a new (very large, lol) baby!
 
#83 ·
Check out Varnish Roan. It happens in Standardbreds. We had a varnish roan standardbred come through rescue and this fellow looks just like Stormy did.
 
#86 ·
I wouldn't believe that based on that website alone. It's not exactly the most accurate or unbiased there is.
 
#87 ·
Here's another pic of "Lucy," the mare with the cockleburr tail:



Based on the information they provide, I'm going with somatic or even just a de novo mutation for her. Wonder if they ever bred her....

As for the Byelorussian Harness Horse, again, it's just a Plain Jain dapple gray:





 
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