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    07-13-2011, 01:43 PM
Actually, I believe a buckskin is black+agouti+ 1 cream. 2 creams would be a perlino. A bay is black+agouti.

I am going to go with smoky black as well, he looks sooooo much like the smoky black stud at the farm I board at! He also has black black legs. Since mom was buckskin she could very possibly have passed on the cream gene, and we know dad only passed black.
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    07-13-2011, 01:58 PM
Jacks, you are correct, I had my information backward. Thank you.
    07-13-2011, 03:08 PM
I may have him tested, just out of curiosity. I just bought some spray to prevent bleaching. Even though most the damage is done for summer, to prevent damage to his incoming coat.

I love genetics. I hardly know any about horses and colors. It seems so interesting. It's something I want to learn at some point. Thanks everyone!
    07-14-2011, 05:39 PM
I would put my money on Smoky Black! Here's my Smoky Black Mare! She also has black legs but is not a bay just like your guy. You can see the smoky colour in her entire coat especially chest and the hairs in her ears, and a tiny bit of the burgundy colour in her mane and tail as well.

The fact that one of his parents is buckskin means that he could have a copy of the creme gene which would make him Smoky black.
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    07-14-2011, 07:52 PM
THe other thing I was going to mention is eye colour. Most Smoky blacks have lighter eyes even darkblue eyes. My mare you can see in this photo has Amber eyes. This is a pic of her as a foal but she still has amber eyes now I just don't have any close up photos at my fingertips at the moment. So yes the light ear hair, lighter eyes (not the typical very dark brown as a black/bay horse would have) and the overall smoky tone throughout their entire coat and most of the way down the legs is what you are looking for to identify him as a Smoky Black. Here is my baby as a baby :)
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    07-22-2011, 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
What's a buckskin? A Cr gene and a black gene with a agouti gene?

He could be a dark bay, black (which I doubt), or a smokey black. I'm leaning towards dark bay, as the bleaching on his body very obviously stops at the legs and it seems very uniform.

Here's my DNA tested smokey black colt:

You can also see the white/blonde hairs in his tail, which he still has at three years old ;)
Interesting because Bourbon looks alot like him her mama was a tested smokey black and daddy was a bay roan my filly has the same light markings and she was also born a silvery color I think I need to have her tested.

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