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        03-01-2014, 11:39 AM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by Peppy Barrel Racing    
    It wasn't a "throw back" both parents were heterozygous black so they were both heterozygous red as well, and they both gave their red genes which made a chestnut.
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    If you'd made that remark back in the day that foal was born people would have looked at you clueless!!
         
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        03-01-2014, 11:49 AM
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    Trained
    But it's not "back in the day" anymore and we know how the base genetics for the colors work.
         
        03-01-2014, 04:26 PM
      #13
    Foal
    I don't exactly understand all the color genetics, so it may not seem as weird to you guys, but we had a bay thoroughbred mare we bred twice to a grey trakehner stallion, and got a very bright orange dun on the first filly and a more bay dun on the second colt. Of course, since they are registered half trakehners, those colors aren't options, so they are registered as chestnut and bay, respectively.
         
        03-01-2014, 06:53 PM
      #14
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    Most unexpected result I know of was a breeder I talked to who didn't consider color when breeding, but they were blown away when they bred a chestnut mare to a grey stallion and got a black filly.

    Sometimes I wish horses were registered with their base color under the grey so there are fewer color surprises.
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        03-01-2014, 08:20 PM
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    Yearling
    Any pics Sara? I don't think trakehner come in dun and dun doesn't skip generations... So would love to see pics of the foals.
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        03-01-2014, 09:11 PM
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    Foal
    Perhaps I'm wrong, like I said I'm no color expert. The filly was born in 1999 and I don't have digital pictures of her on hand, but she was pretty much the Google images result of searching red dun.

    I'm embarrassed I don't have more pictures of the colt, since he's my baby! His color looks the most accurate in the canter picture, his dark points are more dark chocolate looking than black (when compared to black), has the dorsal stripe, his mane and tail have red streaks through them. What do you think?
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        03-01-2014, 09:43 PM
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    That horse isn't dun, dun isn't just primitive markings it's a dilution. His dorsal must be counter shading.
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        03-01-2014, 09:58 PM
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    Foal
    Ok, thanks for the feedback!
         
        03-09-2014, 05:37 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    I know a lady who bred her black tobiano stallion to a grullo tobiano mare and the baby was chestnut tobiano. I know that's not terribly uncommon, but chestnut was definitely the last thing everyone was expecting, given all of the other colour possibilities!
         
        03-10-2014, 10:28 AM
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    Originally Posted by Glynnis    
    I know a lady who bred her black tobiano stallion to a grullo tobiano mare and the baby was chestnut tobiano. I know that's not terribly uncommon, but chestnut was definitely the last thing everyone was expecting, given all of the other colour possibilities!
    That's the fun of breeding horses who are heterozygous for colors and modifiers you never know what you are going to get.
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