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    02-04-2013, 05:45 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Nightside    
I wouldn't say many come in that loud of a pattern. I've seen a lot of ads for clydes for sale lately and most have belly splashes or Max sabino, middle ground is hard to find!
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    02-04-2013, 05:59 PM
  #22
Yearling
Lol my first thought was where are her ears??? Lol they blend in so well to her position. Lmao. She is very pretty though.
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    02-04-2013, 06:06 PM
  #23
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Clydesdales are a Scottish breed and none of those colour names exist in Britain!!!!
Black & white = piebald and any other colour and white = skewbald
She's roan and white so would be a skewbald in that sense, roan colours do exist in Clydes and some can have a lot more white splashes than others
She's lovely btw
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    02-04-2013, 06:14 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Looks like a Clyde mare who was blessed with lots of white. I've seen a number of others with this much white at shows or sales. I personally wouldn't consider her uniquely coloured...just a lot more flashy.

(I cannot comment on what genes may have had an effect on this though. Genes is wayyyy beyond me. LOL)
     
    02-04-2013, 06:24 PM
  #25
Foal
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Originally Posted by caljane    


She doesn't look like an uncommon color for a Clydesdale to me. Just because Budweiser uses only Clydesdales with blaze faces and four stockings doesn't mean that this is the breed description Many Clydesdales have extensive overo pattern, usually sabino based.
Just thought I would compare with my Clydie and his full brother from Cumbrian Clydesdales with Sabino and splash xx
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    02-04-2013, 06:30 PM
  #26
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Taken from Wikipedia. Yes, I realize not the best source, but couldn't find the info I wanted on the Clyde registry site.

"Clydesdales are usually bay in colour, but roan, black, grey and chestnut also occur. Most have white markings, including white on the face, feet, legs and occasional body spotting (generally on the lower belly). They also have extensive feathering on their lower legs.[1] Roaning, body spotting and extensive white markings are thought to be the result of sabino genetics. Some Clydesdale breeders want white face and leg markings without the spotting on the body. To attempt getting the ideal set of markings, they often breed horses with only one white leg to horses with four white legs and sabino roaning on their bodies. On average, the result is a foal with the desired amount of white markings.[6] Clydesdales do not have the SB1 (Sabino 1) gene responsible for causing sabino expressions in many other breeds, and researchers theorise that there are several other genes responsible for these patterns.[7] Many buyers pay a premium for bay and black horses, especially those with four white legs and white facial markings. Specific colours are often preferred over other physical traits, and some buyers will even choose horses with soundness problems if they have the desired colour and markings. Roan horses are not preferred by buyers, despite one draught breed writer theorizing that they are needed in order to keep the desired coat colours and texture.[8] Breed associations, however, state that there are no bad colours, and that horses with roaning and body spots are increasingly accepted.[9]"
Clydesdale horse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As someone said above, not all horses will look like the Bud horses, and this is also mentioned in the wiki article...

"The Budweiser breeding program, with its strict standards of colour and conformation, have influenced the look of the breed in the United States to the point that many people believe that Clydesdales are always bay with white markings.[1"
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    02-05-2013, 01:04 AM
  #27
Trained
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
Clydesdales are a Scottish breed and none of those colour names exist in Britain!!!!
Black & white = piebald and any other colour and white = skewbald
She's roan and white so would be a skewbald in that sense, roan colours do exist in Clydes and some can have a lot more white splashes than others
She's lovely btw
The thing is, calling it "roan" doesn't make it roan. Clydedales do NOT carry the "roan" gene, they have something else causing a roan mimic effect. The jury is still out as to if it is being caused by sabino or dominant white, but we know it is definitely not classic roan.
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    02-05-2013, 10:19 AM
  #28
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
The thing is, calling it "roan" doesn't make it roan. Clydedales do NOT carry the "roan" gene, they have something else causing a roan mimic effect. The jury is still out as to if it is being caused by sabino or dominant white, but we know it is definitely not classic roan.
You are confusing the genetic roan with the commonly (and historically)used description of roan as a solid colour with flecks of white hair mixed in with it and this is very common in Clydes and has always been so. Even the US Clyde guidelines state it as a colour for the breed.
In the UK we attach the word roan to a colour - blue roan, strawberry roan, bay roan etc
Clydesdale Breeders of the USA - Clydesdale 101 - FAQ's
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    02-05-2013, 10:59 AM
  #29
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Considering this is the "Horse Color and Genetics" forum Chiilaa is correct in pointing out that they are not genetically "true roan" along with the other information that she provided.
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    02-05-2013, 12:56 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Considering this is the "Horse Color and Genetics" forum Chiilaa is correct in pointing out that they are not genetically "true roan" along with the other information that she provided.
I didnt say that genetically true roan was incorrect - but Horse Colour is also included in that title and in the UK where the breed originates from the colour would be described as roan and white or skewbald roan and white - as a colour description its recognised by the various UK breed society's
I was stating what colour that horse would be described as in the UK and the US Clydesdale society runs in line with the UK one in terms of colour description. The roan colour in the UK clydes is pretty common - the predominate colour in the US has been ruled by the Budweiser horses as its what they demand
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