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post #21 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 11:10 AM
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She's a grade or "mutt" horse. You could call her a Haflinger cross, but that's about it.

It is highly unethical to breed grade horses on purpose, or allow it to happen on accident. Good solid fencing is a part of responsible horse ownership, as is the gelding of young stud colts.

Unless the parents are proven performance horses, grade horses should not reproduce. The US horse market has been in a steady decline since 9/11 and our economy has been in the toilet the last 3-4 years. Willy-nilly breeding or "backyard breeding" only makes the problem worse, even if you're keeping the horses now. You're only 19, things change.

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post #22 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 12:12 PM
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luvs2ride, I think we covered that already. She has gelded the horses and not a thing can be done about the ones on the ground. It's time to let it go.

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WsArabians, I am in college, no job (yet), engaged. (still live with my parents)
And yes I know its possible that sometimes people have to sell there horse/horses for money. But if I can help it I will try my very hardest not to!

Cloudkisser, thank you :) they are my babies & very muched loved :)

Luvestoride, well when I was little my daddy had two "Grade" horses & he got them both bred to a reg. Paint. I know there are so many unloved horses/poines with out homes and me & my dad have bought 3 horses from people who I didnt like very much, my first pony my dad bought me was from a guy who sold horses/ponies off the side of the road.
The ponit is I don't regert my mistake foals they are a gift from God & I love them <3

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post #25 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 03:34 PM
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Luvs2ride,
I don't usually come on this forum to rant however....You said it is highly unethical to breed grade horses on purpose and that unless they are proven preformance horses they should not reproduce. The definition of "unethical" is not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; So people use certain breeds for certain diciplines which is understandable but what about people who just have horses for pleasure riding? There is no approved standard for a trail horse. You know what my approved standard is? Sound. And what does vikki's grade babies have anything to do with the economy? Yes we live in a horrible economy.But anyone who ownes horse will agree that it does not matter weather your horses are registered or grade they all eat hay, they all need a farrier, they all go to the vet, most of us spoil them with fancy toys, cute halters, blankets, grooming supply's........the list go's on and on and on. The point is we are helping our economy by spending our money and taking care of our horses. We are helping our vets, our farrier, our local feed and supply stores............So I am speaking for all the GRADE owners out ther when I say GRADE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Luvs2ride,
I don't usually come on this forum to rant however....You said it is highly unethical to breed grade horses on purpose and that unless they are proven preformance horses they should not reproduce. The definition of "unethical" is not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; So people use certain breeds for certain diciplines which is understandable but what about people who just have horses for pleasure riding? There is no approved standard for a trail horse. You know what my approved standard is? Sound. And what does vikki's grade babies have anything to do with the economy? Yes we live in a horrible economy.But anyone who ownes horse will agree that it does not matter weather your horses are registered or grade they all eat hay, they all need a farrier, they all go to the vet, most of us spoil them with fancy toys, cute halters, blankets, grooming supply's........the list go's on and on and on. The point is we are helping our economy by spending our money and taking care of our horses. We are helping our vets, our farrier, our local feed and supply stores............So I am speaking for all the GRADE owners out ther when I say GRADE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are plenty of grade and registered horses that are great family horses, trail horses, or pleasure horses. There is NO REASON to breed more grade horses. You can find a nice papered trail, pleasure, or family horse to breed just as easily. The benefits to registration is you know the horse's breeding, you know if there are certain health risks that should be tested for, registration provides a record of ownership and proper bill of sale, and a registered horse has a better chance of selling for a decent price and finding a home than a grade horse, especially in a poor economy.

I have two grade horses on my property and I love them dearly. However, I would never intentionally breed a grade horse, unless it has proven itself as a performance horse, and I believe it is unethical to do otherwise.

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post #27 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 04:07 PM
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There are plenty of grade and registered horses that are great family horses, trail horses, or pleasure horses. There is NO REASON to breed more grade horses.
I do agree with this.

I am glad to read that the OP has gelded everything now. It sounds like they were not set up properly to have stallions.

Just so you have the information, OP, since I assume you did not have it before, it is relatively easy for a vet to rectify the situation when an unwanted breeding occurs. A quick shot and the mare aborts.

I would not call your horses anything but Grade.

PS - I have nothing against grade horses. Some of my favorite horses in life have been grade horses. Just like I have nothing against mutts. I just feel there is no reason to make more of them.
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post #28 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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alwaysbehind, I can't BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID I COULD HAVE HAD THEM ABORTED!!!!!!!!!!! THAT MAKES ME VERY UPSET THAT SOMEONE WHOULD DO THAT JUST COUSE THERE NOT PURE BRED!!!!! I HATE HORSE PEOPLE WHO THINK A "GRADE" HORSE IS BELOW A PURE BRED HORSE, I AGREE WITH CLOUDKISSER GRADE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE NOTHING AGANTS PURE BRED HORSES, BUT THEY ARE NO BETTER THE A GRADE HORSE IN FACT I BET MY GARDE HORSE COULD OUT RIDE ALL YALLS PURE BRED HORSES ANYDAY!!!!!!!! I LOVE ALL HORSES<3<3 <3 <3 SHORT, TALL, FAT, SKINNEY, LAME, SOUND, RIDEABLE NOT RIDEABLE. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME & I LOVE THEM ALL DEARLY WITH ALL MY HEART. AND ALSO ALWAYSBEHIND, I can't BELIEVE YOU CALL URSELF A HORSELOVER YOU ARE FAR FROM ONE!!!!!

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post #29 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 04:44 PM
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I'm not going to hit you with the full force of everything I have, although I'm sorely tempted, considering your uncalled for reply to Alwaysbehind.

Giving the mare a shot or flushing her uterus is much safer and easier on her than making her go through an unplanned pregnancy. If you truly had the mare's health and well being in mind, you wouldn't have made her go through the pregnancy.

The fact that your family allowed it to happen TWICE is absolutely and totally inexcusable. Once is merely ignorance and can be chalked up to a learning experience, but twice is nothing but irresponsible horse ownership.

Grade horses are fine and dandy, but to pass on those questionable genetics is ludicrous. We have enough badly conformed horses in the world. To add more is beyond irresponsible.

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post #30 of 47 Old 12-21-2010, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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Speedracher, im sorry to have made you up set, & I am sorry for being rude (i guess) but to me I think she was being rude herself sayin I could have had them killed!! And my grade horse (Gabriella) will never be a train wreck & she's going to be a great horse! Just like all horses!! Like people everyone as there own talent white, black, & ect. So ur sayin that mixed people have to use in the world? Goes for the same with horses, mixed or not!!!! They are useful, even if they just stand out in the field just to look at :)

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