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post #41 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 06:28 PM
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Thank you for the critisisum of my own horse when you haven't even looked at him.

I was just saying there was an aweful lot of critisisum to the OP but know one cared to find out if it was even the OP's horse or if it had a known medical condition first. My view is to ask questions before I accuse some one of neglect. That is what I was trying to point out.
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post #42 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 06:33 PM
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Sorry the last one he was under weight and I was trying to put weight back on him. This is him just days ago and this is wear I like him.

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post #43 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 06:47 PM
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The OP stated it wasn't her horse but kept on her land and she fed it. The owners won't get out a vet.

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post #44 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 08:21 PM
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That horse is very overweight!! You need get some weight off him. Being that overweight can cause alot of problems ike colic, founder, sugar problems, etc. Also just to say that your not spose to cut a horses forlock like that. Mainly if your showing. Its different for breeds. But from what I can tell it ain't spose to be like that. And that horse looks like a red dun.
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post #45 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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That horse is very overweight!! You need get some weight off him. Being that overweight can cause alot of problems ike colic, founder, sugar problems, etc. Also just to say that your not spose to cut a horses forlock like that. Mainly if your showing. Its different for breeds. But from what I can tell it ain't spose to be like that. And that horse looks like a red dun.
He isn't shown,... Obviously, and his owner cut it like that... o.o I'm not sure how this thread went from color to health. I don't need the criticism about a horse that isn't mine, she knows he is overweight, she hears about it about everyday from either me or my parents.
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post #46 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 10:10 PM
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I understand the concern for the horse, but that had nothing to do with the OPs question. Let's focus on that, since the OP has made it very clear that she's well aware of the horse's condition and is doing what she can.

Extreme criticism is neither productive nor appreciated, and, in this case and in my opinion, completely unwarranted. In fact, some of you were downright rude about it. That's a huge pet peeve of mine. There is a huge difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Off my soapbox now. :)

Back to the real question at hand, with his winter fuzzies, he looks red dun to me as well. Maybe he's one of those color-changing horses that seem to be a completely different color in the summer and he'll look more like a palomino then.
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post #47 of 62 Old 04-03-2011, 10:32 PM
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I understand the concern for the horse, but that had nothing to do with the OPs question. Let's focus on that, since the OP has made it very clear that she's well aware of the horse's condition and is doing what she can.

Extreme criticism is neither productive nor appreciated, and, in this case and in my opinion, completely unwarranted. In fact, some of you were downright rude about it. That's a huge pet peeve of mine. There is a huge difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Off my soapbox now. :)
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Would people be so leniant if the horse was just as underweight? Would the OP's and owner's excuses mean just as much if the horse was a body scale 1 or 2 instead of 8 or 9? Would it be ok for the OP to sit back and say "it isn't my horse, owner won't get the vet out" if the body scale was on the other end of the spectrum?
In my mind, there is no difference. A horse with a body scale 8 or 9 is just as bad as a horse with a body scale condition of 1 or 2.
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About the color, i'd say red dun, if he does shed out to another shade of color my next guess would be dunalino.

About the weight, it might not be how much your feeding, but WHAT your feeding him. Certain feed's will actually put weight on your horse, nutrition AND exercise is a very high factor in obesity. Just like in people, good exercise and diet need to be established before you will lose weight. Same goes with a horse, you could try a supplement to help him digest his food better, and help speed up his metabolism. Cutting his feed wont make him lose weight, less food AND exercise will help him lose weight. But can you honestly expect a morbidly obese horse to want to exercise? He'll lack motivation, and therefore it will be useless. I would try him on a sweet feed (in most cases it will give pep to a horse), or look for supplements to help give him a little energy. A horse with energy, is a horse that wants to burn it off with running and playing. If he has none because of his weight, even if you do try and get him to lunge, I doubt he will be a willing participate, and your friend will most likely give up "because he's being to lazy". If at all possible, could you work with him yourself? I know it doesn't sound "fair", but for the health of the horse, if you can't get your friend to, try exercising him your self.

EDIT: Also wanted to add, don't go out and try to work him hours at a time. To much stress can put the horse at great risk, do 15-20 minute work outs, several times. This will help his body adjust to the work out slowly, until you get to the point where you can increase the exercise. Simple trotting, turning, stopping etc will help, get him moving and working his muscles.

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Would people be so leniant if the horse was just as underweight? Would the OP's and owner's excuses mean just as much if the horse was a body scale 1 or 2 instead of 8 or 9? Would it be ok for the OP to sit back and say "it isn't my horse, owner won't get the vet out" if the body scale was on the other end of the spectrum?
In my mind, there is no difference. A horse with a body scale 8 or 9 is just as bad as a horse with a body scale condition of 1 or 2.
That's exactly what I said : )


Another thing... I would suggest trying to get some of that weight off by feeding him less before your friend starts exercising him more, so as not to damage his joints.
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post #50 of 62 Old 04-04-2011, 02:39 AM
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IMO the horse is at the OP's yard, she is feeding it therefore she is responsible for it.

That horse does not need feeding any hardfeed what so ever! It needs haynets of poor quality hay (not dusty hay just a couple of years old so all the calories have gone from it) and very resricted grazing. If you can get it over there a bucket of happy hoof each morning would help get the needed vitamins and minerals into him.

Persoanly I'd rather see a hore with a condition score of 1 or 2 then one of 8 or 9 out of 10 as at least something will be done about the skinny horse. As it is a the moment people don't realise just how much harm being fat does to a horse.

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