well i know bays have black points too. i was just under the impression that brown is basically like bay, but instead of a red color with black points it was a darker almost black color. i still kind of stick with liver chesnut though. in one of the photos that shows the muzzle up closer. it kind of looks like the "mealyness" of the muzzle could be caused by the mottling of the appy color. most darker appies have lighter noses because the hair on the nose is thinner and the mottling shows through alot more giving it a pinker hue.
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