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What color is my Jewel?

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        09-29-2011, 10:40 PM
    A smokey black carries the cream gene, but is no different looking than any other black horse, so one would only know by testing........
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        09-29-2011, 10:50 PM
    I am well aware that it looks exactly the same.

    OP, what are the names of Jewel's dam and sire? Checking their pedigree could save you the $25 for a cream test.
        09-30-2011, 01:05 AM
    Jewel's mother is a Jockey club TB, Ms. Grizz, not sure what her registered color is, maybe dark brown or black? She belonged to my friend who has since given her away.

    Jewel's father is a Hanoverian, Devon Heir, not sure what color his parents were but he looks like a black. 2001 Hanovarian stallon by DeNiro out of Ribana X Rubinstein.
        09-30-2011, 01:11 AM
    I can't find anything on her dam, but I highly doubt her sire is a smoky black Hanoverian. I don't think his dam was a smoky black either.

    If you want to be 100%, the test for cream is $25. I personally still think she's just extremely sunfaded.
        09-30-2011, 01:18 AM
    Sunfaded brown. I don't think she is a cream dilute, and I am basing that off her foal coat, not her adult one. Her foal coat very much screams brown to me - darker than a bay foal, with the 'sooty' along the top line. No doubt in my mind that she is brown.

    Edit to add: The golden cast to her coat in these pictures is being caused by the lighting not by her coat colour. They have been taken in very late afternoon sunlight, probably only an hour or so before sunset.
        10-01-2011, 09:37 PM
    I think she will be turning brown, black, or gray, as she looks like she is darkening.. But right now I would say buckskin
        10-02-2011, 02:07 AM
    A buckskin can't turn brown or black..

    She can't be buckskin unless one of her parents carries the cream gene, which doesn't appear to be the case. She also can't be gray because neither of her parents are gray.
        10-02-2011, 12:20 PM
    I'll get more pictures of her during the brighter time of the day. We are in Southern Cal where temps get up to 112 and she and her pasture buddy choose to stand out in the sun, rather than under the trees? My bay is still as bright as ever, does not get sun-faded at all.
        10-02-2011, 07:40 PM
    Some horses sunfade, others don't fade at all. They like to keep us on our toes
        10-02-2011, 07:45 PM
    Heck, apachiedragon and I both have breeding stock Paints, both buckskins that are "seasonally sooty". We couldn't really figure it out. When they shed out their winter coats, they have a lot of dark brown hairs mixed in, so they look filthy, but it's their hair. Really random.

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