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what color poss. will the foal be?

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  • Color of foal outcome
  • Can a non-gray stallion and a non-gray mare produce a gray foal?

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    08-26-2011, 04:50 PM
  #1
Weanling
what color poss. will the foal be?

I purchased a b/w overo mare that was bred to a red dun overo...breeder said that she has good chance of throughing a grey overo?? ***note: I luv horses luv to ride (and am being trained for my horses sake ) but am learning as much as I can as I go :) sooo not sure if there is grey overo??? You all seem to know a whole lot, probably more then the breeder so whatcha think??
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    08-26-2011, 07:25 PM
  #2
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by jannette    
i purchased a b/w overo mare that was bred to a red dun overo...breeder said that she has good chance of throughing a grey overo?? ***note: I luv horses luv to ride (and am being trained for my horses sake ) but am learning as much as I can as I go :) sooo not sure if there is grey overo??? You all seem to know a whole lot, probably more then the breeder so whatcha think??
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    08-26-2011, 07:33 PM
  #3
Trained
You can't get a gray foal from a non-gray parent. But you have two Frames, so you have a 25% chance of a lethal white foal.

Basically, the colours you will get are chestnut, bay, or black in combination of different genes under the 'overo' name.
25.00% - LETHAL
9.38% - Chestnut Frame/Splash
9.38% - Chestnut Frame/Sabino/Splash
4.69% - Bay Frame/Sabino/Splash
4.69% - Chestnut Splash
4.69% - Chestnut Sabino/Splash
4.69% - Black Frame/Sabino/Splash
4.69% - Bay Frame/Splash
4.69% - Black Frame/Splash
3.13% - Chestnut Frame/Sabino
3.13% - Chestnut Overo
2.34% - Bay Splash
2.34% - Black Sabino/Splash
2.34% - Bay Sabino/Splash
2.34% - Black Splash
1.56% - Bay Overo
1.56% - Bay Frame/Sabino
1.56% -Black Frame/Sabino
1.56% - Black Overo
1.56% - Chestnut
1.56% - Chestnut Sabino
0.78% - Black
0.78% - Bay Sabino
0.78% - Bay
0.78% - Black Sabino
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    08-26-2011, 07:35 PM
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Green Broke
Oh my.

Possible colours are about to be the least of your worries, to be honest. Both these horses look like they are frame to me. This is a problem. If they are frame (it is early morning here, and I haven't had any caffeine yet, so I could be wrong) there is a 25% chance the foal will be homozygous for frame, which is lethal.

As for colours, the link PaintHorseMares provided is a good one. For the sire, I would put heterozygous for his agouti status, and for the dam I would do the same for her red status, just to get all possible colours.
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    08-26-2011, 07:36 PM
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Trained
When is she due?
     
    08-26-2011, 07:59 PM
  #6
Started
I really, really hope you don't end up with a lethal white :(
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    08-26-2011, 08:00 PM
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Started
What are the parents registered names?
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    08-26-2011, 08:02 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by Poco1220    
I really, really hope you don't end up with a lethal white :(
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Me either. :( Positive thoughts for you and the foal.
     
    08-26-2011, 08:05 PM
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Green Broke
I can't help but want to flame the original owner who went through with the breeding. OP, this is not aimed at you, because you bought her in foal. But the person who allowed that breeding ought to be shot.
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    08-26-2011, 08:13 PM
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Started
I have apha online so if you Can give me the registered names I can see what they've thrown previously and maybe have a better guess at the foal outcome.
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