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    04-08-2011, 09:54 PM
And poop - the slideshow only shows one picture and says the other has been moved to deleted. :(
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    04-08-2011, 10:05 PM
I would think so. I mean you could always send off an email to the ApHC or call them and see what they suggest you do.

And yes, if he is grey then he will eventually loose his spots. There are grey appaloosas out there and they do eventually loose their spots. It honestly saddens me that their are greys. Nothing against the horse, but the color. Gah. Part of the appaloosa is its color. Breed greys and you loose that color. *sigh* sorry for the tangent.
    04-08-2011, 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by crimsonsky    
and poop - the slideshow only shows one picture and says the other has been moved to deleted. :(

Well the pictures are all there. Here are the pics in the slide show. Sorry for the overload. All the same mare, progression from when I got her to present. -

Summer 2001

Spring 2002



Summer 2005

Summer 2008


Jan 2010

Summer 2010

Feb 2011

March 2011

April 2011
    04-08-2011, 10:29 PM
So your mare is a varnish, yes? Am I understanding this correctly? Haha

And yes, that will be very sad if he eventually loses his spots. That IS the obvious determining factor for an appaloosa so to have a color/gene that will "steal" that from them is a disappointment.

Ah well. Nothing I can do about it but love him!

I wish their pedigrees (his parents) had more color information. I suppose I could pay on the appaloosa website to get that info but I don't think it's THAT important. Lol
    04-08-2011, 10:35 PM
Yep you got it right. Phoenix is a varnish.

Exactly on the loving him part. I did have a grey appaloosa... Well he was my grandmother's but I claimed him :p He was born blood bay and was white (from grey) by the time he was 5. He was sadly PTS because of sand colic.
    04-08-2011, 11:59 PM
Oh i'm so sorry for your loss! :(

Funny enough, I always think greys are pretty but i've never wanted one for a few reasons - sarcomas being the main reason. Ah well. Can't change his coat! Haha
    04-09-2011, 12:25 AM
Ok so I got a response from the breeder (no pictures) but this is what she said:

"Genetically he s/b a bay roan, with a blanket and spots. Sire is registered grulla, white w/spots over entire body/star/lf-lightning marks/lh-lightning marks/rh-lightning marks. DNA typed
Dam is buckskin, white over bodyand hips/star,stripe and snip/no leg markings/roan over entire body. DNA typed"

So... uh... bay roan then? Sheesh. Hahaha ;)
    04-09-2011, 02:30 AM
If Mom is registered as Buckskin then there is no doubt in my mind that she is grey =P Look at the dark colour of her coat, even though it is wet and muddy, it has that murky, gone dark to go grey look to me :)
    04-09-2011, 09:38 AM
Also Chiilaa, look at the baby pics of the OP's horse. The dam is in the background, well her head is, and she is very much grey in those.

Crimson - You can always pull hair and send to UCDavis or Animal genetics. It takes about 7-10 days and they email you as well as send you a hard copy of the results. Or call/email the ApHC and see what they want to register him as.
    04-09-2011, 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
If Mom is registered as Buckskin then there is no doubt in my mind that she is grey =P Look at the dark colour of her coat, even though it is wet and muddy, it has that murky, gone dark to go grey look to me :)
can you explain to me how buckskin (in this case) = grey?

Looking at koda today buckskin makes a lot of sense. He's not bay like any bay i've ever known with black points and a reddish coat. He has chocolate points (legs, ears, muzzle) and a golden coat coming in. Part of his face and his butt cheeks have shed out thus far so they show the color the best. Unfortunately my camera battery died before I got any face pics. I'll have to get those tomorrow.

Here's his butt:


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