What Color Stallion Should I breed My Mare To?

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What Color Stallion Should I breed My Mare To?

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    03-26-2012, 07:03 PM
What Color Stallion Should I breed My Mare To?

I have a chestnut QH mare. She is a coppery chestnut though. I would like to breed her, but I don't really want a chestnut foal. What color stallion should I breed her to for the best chance of not getting a chestnut? My horses's dad was Whiskey Zipped, a bay, and her mom was a chestnut, I think. Her mom was out of The Investor.
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    03-26-2012, 07:05 PM
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Are you breeding only for a color?
    03-26-2012, 07:09 PM
You shouldnt pick a stallion based on color. It should be based off of comformation, bloodlines, genetic diseases, show record etc. You mare seems to have decent bloodlines, but is she really a horse that should be bred? Does she have a show record? Hows her conformation? Has she been tested for genetic diseases?

What are your goals for the foal? And what color are you thinking you want? Anything but red leaves alot of options.

Id first look for stallions that compliment your mare very very well, and then choose based off of color last.
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    03-26-2012, 07:09 PM
The stallion's zygosity matters more than his color does.
    03-26-2012, 07:14 PM
Oh boy here we go.... don't breed your mare because you want to, or want a specific color. Have a reason to, and don't pick a stallion because of its color...
    03-26-2012, 07:20 PM
OK, let's stop the criticism before it gets out of hand. There is no reason why she can't breed for a specific feature. The feature can be a shorter back, a better shoulder, or any other reason the OP feels important to her. If color is wanted, and all other conformation traits are fine - there is no reason what so ever not to breed for color.

There are a lot of things to consider to help in your selection that many of our members who are proficient in genetics will give you advice about. You may have to do a genetic test on your mare first.
    03-26-2012, 07:29 PM
Here is a color calculator it's kinda fun to play with, it will give you a idea of what you could possibly get.
    03-26-2012, 07:30 PM
Sorry it would help if I attached it.
Color Calculator
    03-26-2012, 07:33 PM
Green Broke
I agree with Iride, we don't know that she's just going to pick any stallion because it's a certain color... She may be looking first at this other traits then looking at his color..Just because she's looking for a color doesn't mean it's awful..It's only awful when they breed for JUST the color, and as if nothing else matters...

OP, here is a link to a color calculator, you can see what your mare MAY produce with different color stallions.
Color Calculator

ETA - Whoops..posted before I saw cmarie's post..
    03-26-2012, 08:17 PM
While I do agree that another horse shouldn't be created only for color, I think we should give the OP the benefit of the doubt. What if this is a nice mare and they just want to know how to avoid another chestnut before they start looking for stallions? Everyone always seems to jump to conclusions on here...

OP, the good news is that it is very easy to avoid getting another chestnut from your mare. You should have plenty of good stallions to choose from. Black is dominant, so if you can find a stallion who is homozygous for black you will have %100 black based foals. That would be the easiest way to avoid a chestnut. A black based horse can be black, bay, brown, etc. so you'd still have lots of possible colors.

Dilution genes can change a chestnut into another color, like palomino (with the cream gene) or red dun (with the dun gene). Classic roan would turn a chestnut into a red roan and grey would give you a grey horse, or course ;) Actually, grey would be another easy way to go, because even if the foal was born chestnut, it would turn white eventually.

Just remember that to have a guarantee that your foal would get a copy of a particular color gene the stallion must be homozygous for it (that is, have two copies of the same gene). Many stallions will be a guarantee of a nice color but also have awful conformation and temperaments, so be sure not to let the promise of color interfere with your choice.
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