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    12-07-2011, 06:33 AM
  #21
Foal
I don't agree with Seal Brown, as there is no tan around the flanks, elbows or muzzle/eye areas, could be wrong but I am under the understanding that Seal Browns have to have at least some shading in those areas, other wise they are Black or Dk Bays.
     
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    12-07-2011, 06:37 AM
  #22
Showing
There appears to be brown on her flanks or belly, and her legs. I agree that there is none (at least in the pic) of any on her muzzle; but I would still call her a seal brown.
     
    12-07-2011, 06:40 AM
  #23
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
There appears to be brown on her flanks or belly, and her legs. I agree that there is none (at least in the pic) of any on her muzzle; but I would still call her a seal brown.
Dark liver chestnuts have often been called brown for this reason. Look at the horse you are talking about again, and this time, look at the lower leg. It gets definitely lighter, and more towards a chestnut colour. That is one of the easiest ways to tell a liver chestnut from a brown or sun fading black
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    12-07-2011, 06:46 AM
  #24
Showing
I love reading these posts about color - there is so much confusion about it. I've learned a good deal from them and I'm impressed about how much some of the members know about genetics. I may be old and have been around horses pretty much my whole life but I love learning new things - color, or the nuances of it, was just not something that was really thought about.
     
    12-07-2011, 08:13 AM
  #25
Foal
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
There appears to be brown on her flanks or belly, and her legs. I agree that there is none (at least in the pic) of any on her muzzle; but I would still call her a seal brown.
On Seal Bown - the flank, behind the elbows & around the muzzle & eye are a clear Tan well the rest of the body is much darker brown ie..

Rather than faded black (this horse shows extreme fading), note the lack of tan colouration around the muzzle & eyes, the flank is also the SAME colour as the horses body rather than paler...

Both have been colour tested - the 1st horse is Seal Brown, the 2nd true Black.
     
    12-07-2011, 08:27 AM
  #26
Trained
Browns can very well vary in body tone as well as any other color. They can be lighter as well. They will have the lighter muzzle, flanks and inner elbows though.
     
    12-07-2011, 02:04 PM
  #27
Showing
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
smrobs, I would call that horse a Seal Brown.
LOL, I know he looks it, but he is definitely a liver chestnut. We used to have one that was colored almost identical to him. Unfortunately, I have no good pictures of old Judge.
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    12-10-2011, 11:21 AM
  #28
Foal
I'm going to say she's a sunfaded black.
     
    12-13-2011, 01:50 AM
  #29
Started
Looks liver chestnut.Mane & tail look more dark brown than black.A fading blacks I have had still retains the black of the mane & tail.
     
    12-13-2011, 02:25 AM
  #30
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by paintedpastures    
Looks liver chestnut.Mane & tail look more dark brown than black.A fading blacks I have had still retains the black of the mane & tail.
The pony posted by the OP is definitely not liver chestnut. No lighter coronet band at all. Sun fading blacks can and do fade in the mane and tail.
     

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