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        08-16-2014, 04:59 PM
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    This is only true if one or both parents is homozygous black. Two black horses can produce a chestnut foal, but couldn't produce a bay or brown foal.
    True. I should have been more specific. What I meant was that given the appearance of the foal's coat, since the parents are both black, the foal can only be black. He can't be bay or brown. I had said in my post prior to that that depending on the sire's color, he could only be black, bay or brown...again, based on what color he is now.
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        08-16-2014, 06:29 PM
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    I have two fillies born this year that are black and they are the same colour as your now.
    He is shedding and sunbleached Shalom
         
        08-16-2014, 11:31 PM
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    This is only true if one or both parents is homozygous black. Two black horses can produce a chestnut foal, but couldn't produce a bay or brown foal.
    I think Drafty was referring to this foal ONLY. The question was if he was black or brown looking at the first photo. By knowing that both parents were black, it means that the foal could only be black out of those two options. It is clear that he isn't red. So while it is true that red could be possible, we know in this case that it is not red.

    ETA: I didn't even notice there were two pages lol
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        08-16-2014, 11:33 PM
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    I think Drafty was referring to this foal ONLY. The question was if he was black or brown looking at the first photo. By knowing that both parents were black, it means that the foal could only be black out of those two options. It is clear that he isn't red. So while it is true that red could be possible, we know in this case that it is not red.
    Exactly. Thank you. My brain doesn't run so coherently on two hours of sleep.
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        08-18-2014, 03:37 AM
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    Yes if this foal has two black parents, he can only be black (because obviously he's not red. Lol) Unless one of the "black" parents was actually a brown... the really dark brown ones sometimes get called black by mistake.
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        08-18-2014, 02:57 PM
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    If both parents are Ee then there is a possibility of a red foal. Not saying this baby is but without knowing DNA you can't be sure. If one was tested and is EE then even if second is Ee then baby would be black no chance of chestnut.
         
        08-29-2014, 02:44 PM
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    Looks like a black foal to me!
         
        08-29-2014, 09:32 PM
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    If both parents are black, then he can only be black.

    His foal coat in the first pic appears to be sun leached, which will usually happen when they're getting ready to go into their first shed (the long, fuzzy hairs die, so become more susceptible to bleaching).
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    Very much wrong. Two blacks have an equal chance of producing a bay, unless both are homozygous for black. Then you can STILL get a bay. Might even get a chestnut if they aren't.

    That said, check the hairs around the eyes and on the muzzle. That is usually the true color. Not ALWAYS, but usually.

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    Look black? He isn't. Turned out to be very much a bay. Yep, black parents.
         
        08-29-2014, 09:39 PM
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    Squirrel, you cannot get a bay horse out of 2 genetically black horses. Agouti is dominant. It does not hide, it cannot hide. If 2 black horses produced a bay foal, then I would venture that a) one parent was not actually black but a very dark brown, or b) the sire wasn't actually the sire.
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        08-29-2014, 09:48 PM
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    DNA said they were, and I owned both of them at the time, so I KNOW the parentage.
         

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