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What is the difference between a paint and a pinto?

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    12-10-2013, 10:18 PM
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Yearling
What is the difference between a paint and a pinto?

Simple (hopefully) question.

What's the difference between the two?

I have never had any experience with either of the two. Please enlighten me
     
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    12-10-2013, 10:26 PM
  #2
Started
I'm not sure which is which, but I believe one is a registered paint/pinto and the other is not registered? Please correct me if I am wrong.
     
    12-10-2013, 10:30 PM
  #3
Yearling
Paint is a breed, pinto is just a color. Technically Paints are just registered pintos, and an unregistered horse that is pinto colored is just a grade horse with pinto coloring.
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    12-10-2013, 10:30 PM
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Paints are an actual breed, like a quarter horse, arabian, etc. A pinto has the color markings but can be any breed(s).
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    12-10-2013, 11:14 PM
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Started
Correct in saying Paints/APHA are a breed registry. They have AQHA roots hence the breed conformation description is much like that of QH as is much of the pedigree linage. Outcrosses to AQHA & TB are accepted in fact much of the paint registry originated with AQHA cropouts{those QH with too much white that AQHA would not accept due to the white rule} AQHA has since recended the white rule so that is why you are seeing double registered AQHA/APHA.

Pinto PtHA are those horses that have the white pattern but horse can have variety of breeds saddlebred,arab,Tb,APHA,mini, etc. There is no Breed conformation standard or pedigrees, Color is the premise.

so.....
A Paint/APHA can be considered a pinto, but not all pintos can be Paints
     
    12-11-2013, 02:13 AM
  #6
Weanling
LOL that's as clear as mud I'm sure ;)

Seriously though all the answers are pretty accurate and this is in fact one of my pet peeves.. lots of people call all horses/ponies with any kind of white patterning "Paints" when in fact the only horse that can technically be called a Paint is one that is registered with the APHA otherwise they're considered a Pinto.
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    12-11-2013, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mysticdragon72    
LOL that's as clear as mud I'm sure ;)

Seriously though all the answers are pretty accurate and this is in fact one of my pet peeves.. lots of people call all horses/ponies with any kind of white patterning "Paints" when in fact the only horse that can technically be called a Paint is one that is registered with the APHA otherwise they're considered a Pinto.
It seems pretty clear! Think of it as with dogs- a Dalmatian is a breed of dog that has spots. If you have a Great Dane with spots, then it is a Great Dane with spots- having the spots doesn't make it a Dalmatian! It's the same with the pinto/paint debate- you can have an Oldenburg that is a pinto, but it's an Oldenburg, not a Paint!

I've been known to mess up the pinto/paint situation though, usually when I refer to a generic pinto horse in a field as a paint. Sure may be a paint, but maybe not!
     
    12-11-2013, 12:50 PM
  #8
Yearling
Okay so a paint is registered and a pinto is any other kind of spotted/blotched horse.

Okay.

So what does the breed itself look like? Is it basically a quarter horse build? But with the paint pattern?

Also, if an APHA breeds with an APHA and they produce a foal that *looks* like a paint, is it actually a pinto unless it gets registered?

Sorry for all the dumb questions.
     
    12-11-2013, 02:32 PM
  #9
Foal
Not to add to the confusion...but is tobiano a type of pinto?
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    12-11-2013, 02:43 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Yes- pinto includes all white patterning (tobiano, sabino, splash, dominant white, and frame) except for appaloosa. Any horse who displays one of these patterns, regardless of whether or not it is registered with any registry (or no registry), is a pinto.

There is a pinto registry, but it is a color registry, not a breed. They accept most horses with any type of pinto coloring (including Paint horses). IIRC they don't accept drafts but have no other real requirements.

APHA registered horses are considered Paint horses whether or not they have inherited or display a white pattern. The registry prefers more loudly expressed pinto coloration, but allows horses who don't display it to be registered as "Solid Paint Bred" and to be used as breeding stock.
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